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State Sovereignty Movement Quietly Growing

February 5th, 2009 · 142 Comments · History, Local Issues, Politics, Rights and Liberty

You may not have heard much about it, but there’s a quiet movement afoot to reassert state sovereignty and stop the uncontrolled expansion of federal government power. Almost half of the state legislatures are considering or have representatives preparing to introduce resolutions which reassert the principles of the 9th and 10th Amendments to the Constitution and the idea that federal power is strictly limited to specific areas detailed in the Constitution and that all other governmental authority rests with the states.

In the version of this bill being considered in Washington state, they appeal to the authority of James Madison in The Federalist who wrote:

“”The powers delegated to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the state governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, [such] as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce. The powers reserved to the several states will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people.”

The founding fathers believed in a balance between state and federal power. This state sovereignty movement clearly arises from the belief that the balance of power has tilted too far and for too long in the direction of the federal government and that it’s time to restore that lose balance.

The emergence of this movement is a hopeful sign of the people asserting their rights and the rights of the states and finally crying “enough” to runaway government. With the threat of increasingly out of control federal spending, some of these sovereignty bills may stand a fair chance of passage in the coming year.

There’s a lot of excitement about these bills, but there are also a lot of misconceptions, with people claiming that some states have already declared sovereignty and that the movement is much farther along than it really is. Contrary to popular rumor, none of the states has actually enacted a sovereignty law yet. Some have come close. Oklahoma’s bill passed their lower house overwhelmingly but stalled in the Senate last fall and is being held over for consideration in the new year.

Contrary to the fantasies of some extremists, these sovereignty bills are not the first step towards secession or splitting up the union, nor are they an effort to block collection of the income tax, appealing though that might be. For the most part, they are not so much political statements of independence as they are expressions of fiscal authority directed specifically at the growing cost of unfunded mandates being placed upon the states by the federal government. Despite the movement picking up steam as he came to office, the target of these bills is not President Obama, but rather the Democrat-dominated Congress whose plans for massive bailouts and expanded social programs are likely to come at an enormous cost to the states.

It has become increasingly common for Congress to pass legislation which dictates policy to the states, but which comes without adequate federal funding and the expectation that the cost of these programs, which the states had no real say in approving, will come out of state budgets. This has been a long-term problem with Medicaid and Medicare, but the unfunded mandate which stirred up the most ire recently was the No Child Left Behind program. More concern has been raised with the recent reauthorization and expansion of the SCHIP program which has a history of requiring more expenditure than is provided for in the federal budget.

The text of the bill proposed in Arizona makes the clearest statement of the intent to block unfunded mandates:

“That this Resolution serves as notice and demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.”

and

“That all compulsory federal legislation that directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions or requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed.”

What this movement is most similar to is the Nullification Crisis of 1832 where the State of South Carolina asserted that it had the right to nullify the authority of federal laws within its borders. In this case the states are not asserting anything as broad as the Doctrine of Nullification, but are merely reasserting the limits which the 10th Amendment places on federal authority, specifically as it applies to spending, the idea being that they don’t have to pay for federal mandates if their legislators choose not to.

Not all of the bills fall within these limitations. Missouri’s bill actually goes somewhat further and does assert the right fo the state to negate federal law, specifically in reference to the proposed federal Freedom of Choice Act, which some fear would bar states from passing laws regulating abortion. New Hampshire’s bill actually goes so far as to lay out a very strongly worded variant of the Doctrine of Nullifcation which specifies acts by the federal government (many of them currently being proposed in Congress) which would effectively negate the Constitution and the authority of the federal government within their state. Hawaii’s proposed sovereignty bill comes very close to being an actual act of secession, based on native tribal rights.

As things stand right now it looks like Oklahoma, Washington, Hawaii, Missouri, Arizona, New Hampshire, Georgia, California, Michigan and Montana will all definitely consider sovereignty bills this year. They may be joined by Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine and Pennsylvania where legislators have pledged to introduce similar bills. Twenty states standing up to the federal government and demanding a return to constitutional principles is a great start, but it remains to be seen whether legislatures and governors are brave enough or angry enough to follow through. As the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress push for more expansion of federal power and spending that may help provide the motivation needed for the sovereignty movement to take off.

Dave Nalle has worked as a magazine editor, a freelance writer, a capitol hill staffer, a game designer and taught college history for many years. He now designs fonts for a living and lives with his family in a small town just outside Austin where he is ex-president of the local Lions Club. He is on the board of the Republican Liberty Caucus and Politics Editor of Blogcritics Magazine. You can find his writings about fonts, art and graphic design at The Scriptorium. He also runs a conspiracy debunking site at IdiotWars.com.

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  • 1 Stephen Ray Hale // Feb 7, 2009 at 1:29 am

    Please tell me that Texas is part of this movement.

  • 2 A Georgia Gentleman // Feb 7, 2009 at 9:57 am

    Maybe one should open a history book,
    going back to the 1860’s, and take a look
    at the war of Northern oppression
    ( commonly called the “Civil War” ).
    Might it really needed to be termed the
    War of federal oppression.

    Might we not need to stop at ascension of
    State sovereignty, and continue on to a
    possible thought of succeeding from a
    union of states, governed by an oppressive
    socialist regime, which is hell bent on
    destroying the United States of America,
    and reducing OUR country to another
    communist government controlled , state
    owned gulag for those, once of a free
    nation of the people, by the people, and
    for the people.

    We might only need to turn to the history
    of communism, and to the writings of
    Karl Marx , and the communist manifesto,
    to understand the new demoncratic plan
    of federal governance of all people,
    business and institutions, all state
    governments included, that is now in
    motion in the chambers of the house,
    senate, and in the office of the presidency.

    They socialists inside the beltway are
    moving quickly to consolidate their power,
    and once consolidation is complete, the
    power will only be to the federal
    government, and the states now will be
    totally subservient to federal control.
    The will of the people will only bring
    on the imprisonment, and deaths of those
    who will question the authority of the
    federal government, this as seen in every
    instance where socialism and communism
    has come to power.
    The lead in to this can currently be seen
    in the attack by the socialists in the federal
    government on the free speech of the
    people through dissent of the current
    activities of the new socialist congress,
    senate, and office of the presidency.
    If the people, and the states allow this
    cancer to spread, and consolidate its
    power, the United States of America
    will shortly be known as the USSA.
    United Socialist States of America.

  • 3 David E Jones // Feb 7, 2009 at 10:49 am

    Bring it on! Georgians will support it, as will Texans and Montanans.

  • 4 Paul // Feb 7, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Now on the other hand, what about the states violations of the federal constitution? Look closely at both sides of the issue. It is not just the federal government that is attacking our constitutional rights. Carefully read the second ammendment, look up each word if you have to to understand the issue. This is only one area to look at but it represents the whole problem. First of all the states are required to uphold and enforce the federal constitution to gain status as a state of the union. Article six clause two clearly states the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, so where do states get the power to regulate firearms or any other weapon. To keep and bare arms is not limited to just fire arms, it is an all inclusive statement. shall not infringe is an all inclusive command, Look it up. Therefore no state and no federal gun laws are valid. shall not infringe is an absolute prohibition to writh any laws pertaining to ones self defense choice of weapons. Some may be great with a sword other are excelent with a bow and arrow, you can not qualify what arms are because anything can be used as a weapon. Tell me the peasants didnt use pitch forks and axes to defend themelves. If the states aare required to uphold and enforce the constitution and they are how do they get the authority to pass subsequent gun laws to those of the federal government and what makes any law concerning the right to keep and bare arms valid? There is no arms law on the books that can be valid if the second ammendment exists and it does. In fact any laws pertaining to the right to keep and bare arms is a crime against the constitution as it violates the basic concept of the force of the constitution. shall n ot infringe is an absolute command to bnot pass any legislation pertaining to the right to keep and bare arms. Plain and simple no gunlaws or any kind of weapons laws are valid and are infact a crime against the constitution which is defined as an act of High Treason. This exactly what it boils down to, all government agencies state and federal are violating the constitution which under the laws voids the authority they attempt to exercise. A direct violation of their oath of office and an inpeachable criminal offense. don’t laugh, this is exactly what the law says it is. Therefore the power and authority of the state and federal government are null and void by fact of law. Until the constitution is restored and al of the unconstitutional laws on the books are repealed, government does not exist. they are in breech of contract and have self terminated any authority we gave by consent. We as individuals have to answer to the law and government is required to do the same or there is no constitution and therefore no authority to be governd. This is the way the writers of the constitution menat it to be, read their notes!

  • 5 Pathenry // Feb 7, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Yes, we must understand Marxism for what it is. “Father Karl” himself laughed at the idea that he had propounded an economic theory. The Communist Manifest sums itself up as “the abolition of private property.” Read correctly, it is the destruction of private property.

    THE book exposing this from his Marx’ own writings in by the late Rev. Richard Wurmbrand (Tortured for Christ). The reason he was jailed for years was for disseminating this book in communist Romania and elsewhere. The title is Marx & Satan, and is available from Voice of the Martyrs US website for a mere $5.

    On the real economic side, we have Keynesian economics. John Maynard Keynes explained the real intent himself in his book The Economic Consequences of the Peace:
    “”By a continuous process of inflation, governments can confiscate secretly
    and unobserved an important part of the wealth of their citizens. There is
    no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than
    to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of
    economic law on the side of destruction – and does it in a manner in which
    not one man in a million is able to diagnose.”

    We must end the Fed and its fiat currency. We must assert states’ rights. We must elect Constitutionalists. And we must do it, however small a minority freedom-lovers may be. As George Washington said. “Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest may repair. … The event is in the hand of God.”

  • 6 cc // Feb 8, 2009 at 1:00 am

    Thanks for a more clear post. Most of the posts regarding this issue were over dramatized and sensationalized.
    I was wondering why headlines on TV weren’t going a buzz….basically because nothings happened yet….but we can hope.

  • 7 Dave Nalle // Feb 8, 2009 at 1:33 am

    I think we may see something really worth paying attention to before the end of March. I can’t imagine that Oklahoma won’t have passed their bill by then. Maybe Arizona too.

    Dave

  • 8 Dave Nalle // Feb 8, 2009 at 1:42 am

    Please tell me that Texas is part of this movement.

    You know, as a Texan I would have expected it, but none of the sources I’ve checked have any info on a sovereignty bill for Texas. Of course, the Texas Leg. is out of session until Monday. We may see something introduced then.

    Dave

  • 9 linda // Feb 8, 2009 at 3:25 am

    Why would these states pass a bill now in reaction to No Child Left Behind? That was, what, 2003?

  • 10 Dave // Feb 8, 2009 at 3:42 am

    I only offered NCLB as an example of an unfunded mandate. Clearly if you read some of the bills and associated statements they are reacting more to the potential abuses they see coming down the road.

    Dave

  • 11 Breeze // Feb 8, 2009 at 9:33 am

    I like the sound of it but am suspicious. Why Hawaii? Why these northeastern “blue” states? And CALIFORNIA??? Why aren’t SC and TX on the list? I don’t know about this. One thing I DO know is that they are very very close to a Constitutional Convention, just one or two states away from forcing it. Doesn’t matter if the state doesn’t want it anymore or not, once on the list, they can force it. I would be vary wary of anything Washington and California pass, even if it is republican lawmakers introducing it. There has to be a reason why libs would not fight it!

  • 12 Dave // Feb 8, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Recent reports are that SC may be joining the list. Texas doesn’t start its legislative session until tomorrow and no legislators have tried to jump the gun and get publicity for a sovereignty bill, but I bet one will show up.

    As for Hawaii, they’ve got a strong independent streak and a movement of natives who want genuine secession.

    Dave

  • 13 Inquistive // Feb 8, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    I don’t get it Dave, why would you care about state sovereignty resolutions….aren’t they just being fostered on some gullible legislators by conspiracy nuts who think the feds have too much power?

  • 14 Dave // Feb 9, 2009 at 12:07 am

    You don’t have to be a conspiracy nut to think the federal government has too much power. It’s hardly the same thing as thinking the feds are bugging your cereal or dosing you with saltpeter.

    Dave

  • 15 Inquistive // Feb 9, 2009 at 12:40 am

    This gop US Senator speaking the truth about how terrible the gop was during
    the Bush years and how the soon to be passed Stimulus Bill continues that history of
    reckless government spending must be another conspiracy nut…. he sounds terribly close to what Ron Paul has been saying for years….

    US Senator Tom Coburn(R-OK) released the following statement on Feb. 6 regarding a
    non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report that says the stimulus bill,
    which Coburn is calling the “Generational Theft Act,” will harm our economy and
    cause our Gross Domestic Product to decrease over the long term.
    “The concerns that many members of Congress have expressed about this bill are not
    based on the failed policies of the past but sobering facts about the present, and
    the future. As CBO has stated, this bill will not work. In fact, this bill will hurt
    our economy. A majority of Americans also do not believe this bill will work because
    they possess a level of common sense that does not exist in Washington,” Dr. Coburn
    said. “Congress and the president have a choice. They can pull this bill and fix it,
    or they can ram it through and claim victory. Republicans and the Bush
    administration faced, and failed, this test many times. For years, Republicans
    passed bloated and reckless spending bills that were harmful to the economy. Yet,
    even as Republicans grew the government they touted their bills as sound and
    fiscally responsible vehicles for job creation. Republican hypocrisy and spin met
    its logical conclusion with the most recent election. Democrat attempts to call
    failures successes won’t be any more successful. The biggest loser in this game
    won’t be either party, but the country,” Dr. Coburn said.

  • 16 Dave // Feb 9, 2009 at 11:00 am

    Coburn is on the right track, but I think he ultimately stops short of the right conclusion. I don’t think it’s possible to fix this bill. I don’t think it’s possible to spend your way out of a recession at least not when using deficit dollars.

    Dave

  • 17 The Right Side of Life » States’ Rights: More Commentary, WND News, Printz v. US, On Blog Talk Radio // Feb 9, 2009 at 12:45 pm

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  • 18 Matthew Givens // Feb 9, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Dave, what source told you Alabama will considering such a bill or resolution. I’ve searched the online legislation site for the state and do not see any such legislation introduced to date. So, why is Alabama included in the list?

  • 19 Dave // Feb 9, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Good question, Matthew. When I look niow, many the articles I can find on the subject include Alabama on the list, but it turns out that the ultimate source for many of those articles may be an article by Jerome Corsi on WorldNetDaily, and Corsi is not a credible source for anything. However, Corsi’s article came out after mine did, and I suspect he lifted much of it from my article based on the wording, and then added his own silly speculation to it.

    In the process of searching for my original source I did find an interesting list of where various sovereignty initiatives stand. But it looks like most of the sources I used have a similar list of states which are considering introducing a bill and Alabama is on all of those lists. The list may originate with the 10th Amendment Foundation.

    Of course, Alabama is notable as one state which previously tried to use the 10th Amendment sovereignty argument to prevent desegregation in the 1960s.

    Of course, Alabama’s legislature like a lot of the others only convened last week, so who knows a bill may appear at any moment.

    Dave

  • 20 Greg Goss // Feb 9, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    And right after we finish with the sovereignty issue we can form “Well Regulated Militia’s”

  • 21 Robert // Feb 9, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Somebody here in Texas better grow some nads. If not, they’ll just pick us off one at a time. Me, I’m exercising my 2nd Ammentment. Anybody got any deals on 9mm, .44mag, .40 cal or .50 mag? I’m low.

  • 22 Matthew // Feb 9, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Okay, thanks, I’ll see what the 10th Amendment Foundation says, and I’ll keep an eye out on the ALISON system.

    I checked the 10 Amendment Center’s website, and they say the same thing. I’ve posted a query and I’ll see if they can tell me.

  • 23 123 // Feb 9, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    The Infowars article referenced herein did not make any claim that states were moving to secede or to block the federal income tax—in fact it did the opposite by describing the Russian predictions as “threadbare Cold War logic.” I also find this duplicity remarkable in that you declare such things “appealing” and “extremist” in the same breath. You must be on the same pills as Glenn Beck.

    It’s funny how the people who originally prescribed limits on federal power are never called extremists–nor are those who abuse that power today. Only those who believe such limits should be respected are vilified. These days, any practical recognition of the constitutional limits on federal power is astonishing. How do you know that’s not a first step towards a government based upon law instead of on force? Since further steps have not been taken, there is no telling which way those steps are going.

    As for reasons to secede, federal agencies have forcibly usurped virtually every power that was reserved to the states and the people by the constitution. And most of those agencies cannot pass an audit. But treason and embezzlement on the grandest scale don’t seem to qualify as “extremist” in your book. More duplicity! Would you even admit that states have a right to secede when the federal government routinely violates the supreme law of the land? (1)

    To the extent that others could be accused of exaggerating the sentiments of the states, you could also be accused of trivializing them. When the states start declaring bankruptcy and the federal government only tries to expand its power further instead of enacting meaningful reforms, all bets are off. And maybe it’s time for Americans to reconsider how much they really need a federal government which conveniently “loses” a trillion here and a trillion there.(2) Pretty soon you’re talking about money which could pay the bills! Which would you rather have: food and shelter or thieving federal bureaucracy? Don’t laugh yet, cause it might come to that.

    (1) The Men Who Destroyed the Constitution – http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo105.html

    (2) …its own auditors admit the military cannot account for 25 percent of what it spends. “According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions,” Rumsfeld admitted.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml

  • 24 Dave // Feb 9, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    I checked ALISON too and it’s a pain to go through all those bills. I wonder if contacting your state rep might help?

    Robert good luck with that ammo situation. Check my earlier article on trying to find ammo at the gun show in Austin. It’s grim.

    Dave

  • 25 Dave // Feb 9, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    123. Writers on InfoWars have repeatedly endorsed Panarin’s silly predictions, including head honcho Alex Jones.

    Good point on the military spending issue, but you understate it. That $2.3 trillion was just for 1 year. In the subsequent year, aware of the embarrassment that $2.3 trillion caused they STILL managed not to account for $1.1 trillion more.

    Thankfully Don Rumsfeld did make this problem public and did a lot to resolve it and the accounting systems in the military have been modernized and are much more reliable as a result.

    Dave

  • 26 Chris in Iraq // Feb 10, 2009 at 8:53 am

    There is more than pork in the stimulus plan. I was upset about the $9Billion for broadband expansion and other projects the federal gov’t has no business in… until I saw this and it made me livid:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=email_en&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs

    They want complete control over YOUR healthcare- making your records part of a federal database, and including limits to treatment options. Yes, THAT is in the stimulus package! When does your treatment become politically based? The abuse MUST be stopped!

  • 27 Chris in Iraq // Feb 10, 2009 at 8:55 am

    Robert, just saw your post. Check http://www.aimsurplus.com
    They still have cheap rifles AND ammo.
    http://www.Sportsmansguide.com has some good deals too.

  • 28 Dave // Feb 10, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    There’s an interesting development related to this story here in Texas.

    It seems that our governor and state government are looking into the legalities of the option of rejecting all federal funds from the stimulus package so that they won’t have to comply with any of the requirements and unfunded mandates which come with them.

    I think that says a lot about this situation.

    Dave

  • 29 Gordon, in Baghdad // Feb 11, 2009 at 1:07 am

    Dave,

    I’m glad to hear that Texas is at least bailing out the boat, but, I see they haven’t got it afloat yet. I’ve been trying to get a moment to write the Governor for days, and, every time I get started, another Shoe drops.

    The main thing we need to focus on is the “Power to write Rules, Regulations and Policies” that is smothering America. It’s not just that Congress is writing unconstitutional Laws, but, their minions in every State, County, City and Town have been granted “Powers” that do not exist.

    FYI: A Zero Tolerance Policy is actually defined as an “Instrument of Tyranny.” It creates Crimes that do not exist by defining penalties and punishments (that cannot have Legal Power) for not obeying ‘Policy.’ The reason they cannot have power is because ‘making law’ is the business of Legislatures, not Nursery School Administrators.

    This gradually growing Tyranny of low level lackeys began in the 19th Century when Congress began etablishing Regulatory Agencies (The Railroad Commission), ‘granting’ them a ‘Power’ that does not exist in the Constitution. Congress was never granted the “Power to grant Powers,” in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, nor, the Amendments appended thereto.

    ‘This,’ “Power to Grant Powers” is the ultimate usurpation of Power, a longstanding, active, and, virulent “Conspiracy to Commit Tyranny” by “Officials” (Public Servants) at all levels, even unto those not employed by Governments, down to that “Nursery Shool Administrator,” and, the assistant that he/she empowered to write a “Zero Tolerance Policy.”

    Rules, Regulations, Policies and Proceedures ‘cannot’ be enforced as Law. According to the Constitution, they are not Laws, as if they never existed, and, anyone that obeys, or, attempts to enforce them has joined a (USSC defined) “Conspiracy to Commit Tyranny Against the People.”

  • 30 Dave // Feb 11, 2009 at 2:38 am

    Government’s powers are whatever we allow it to get away with. The question now is whether we can put the genie back in the bottle.

    Dave

  • 31 Gordon, in Baghdad // Feb 11, 2009 at 10:23 am

    You’re right, Dave, and, I believe that was my point exactly: they have already breached the Contract with the States, and, it is time for the States to assert their Rights and affirm their Powers, with the full backing of the People.

    If not now, when? How many innocent people will have to die before it is time?

  • 32 Dennis Wilson // Feb 11, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Nine of these states have ALSO already endorsed The Liberty Amendment…:
    http://www.libertyamendment.com/

    If you live in one of the other states that have finally awakened to the 10th Amendment, please push your local politicians to endorse the Liberty Amendment as a MEANS to exercise the 10th Amendment.

    The Liberty Amendment will resolve 45 outstanding freedom issues all at once.

  • 33 Bob // Feb 11, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Wasn’t our country founded as a Republic under limited law? Democracy is nothing but mob rule.

  • 34 Dave // Feb 12, 2009 at 2:23 am

    Exactly, Bob. Tyranny of the majority is not a pretty thing when you’re in the minority.

    dave

  • 35 Dave Nalle // Feb 12, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    For those who may not have seen it yet, there’s a followup to this article about the issue of states rights and a major challenge to the 10th Amendment in the stimulus bill. Go read it.

    Dave

  • 36 IF // Feb 13, 2009 at 9:59 am

    PASSED IN 1995 Watch this Video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jva5ytwW6k&feature=channel_page
    10TH AMENDMENT STATE SOVEREIGNTY RESOLUTION CURRENT STATUS (9/20/95) RESOLUTION PASSED General Assembly, both houses,
    Colorado Hawaii Missouri
    California Pennsylvania Michigan
    Montana Arkansas Idaho
    Indiana Alaska Kansas
    Alabama Nevada Maine

  • 37 Larry Kilgore for Gov - Texas Secession // Feb 13, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    The Kilgore campaign has posted a Texas Sovereignty event on facebook. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Larry-Kilgore-for-Gov-Texas-Secession/44066004175

  • 38 Mary in TX // Feb 15, 2009 at 1:04 am

    Thank you Dave for your easily understandable explanations and the great links. You have given me alot of hope. Larry Kilgores page was a little distrubing, though, as I never thought of our country coming to such a thing. However, I slightly disheartened at the news of Jim Clyburn’s (D-SC) stunt. This MOST definately needs to be cahllenged! Have you passed this information on to Rush Limbaugh? He can get the word out.

  • 39 Dave // Feb 15, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    Well, I didn’t provide the Kilgore link. I half considered deleting that comment as spam.

    Limbaugh ought to be aware of the efforts that are going on. SC’s efforts were mentioned briefly on This Week this morning.

    Keep watching. I’m working on a followup article.

    Dave

  • 40 Claudia // Feb 15, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    I looked at the Nevada Constitution and believe that the Sovereingty issue is already covered inside that document, and has been in force all the time in many ways since its inception in 1864. I might be wrong on this, but here is the link, and possibly you could check it out and see if you read what I read in it. From what I see, it states that we are basically soverign anyway.

    http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Const/NVConst.html

    and like several other people, I looked and could find nothing in our Legislature, whch is just starting its bi-annual session, that seemed to suggest that we were going to go on this route, although I certainly do wish that we would here in Nevada, but I can’t see it happening because, as you know, Harry Reid is from here and that wouldn’t fly to well with him, if this state were to declare sovereingty, even as limited and small scoped as that is, as opposed to the possible consideration of secession.

  • 41 FactsNow // Feb 16, 2009 at 6:23 am

    I think this movement is necessary!
    Congress keeps passing these worthless feel-good laws (like the Adam Walsh Act) without any review and threatens states to pass such legislation even if these laws cost way more to enact than to adopt.
    The Constitution must be upheld and I support state rights all the way.

  • 42 Dave // Feb 16, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    It looks like a number of states are already introducing new sovereignty bills for this legislative session. I’ll post an update when there’s enough info available.

    Dave

  • 43 Doc // Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Nevada has a bill in the hands of an assemblyman right now, it hasn’t been turned in yet. But regarding Nevada’s Constitution.

    Article 1 Sec. 2
    Purpose of government; paramount allegiance to United States. All political power is inherent in the people[.] Government is instituted for the protection, security and benefit of the people; and they have the right to alter or reform the same whenever the public good may require it. But the Paramount Allegiance of every citizen is due to the Federal Government in the exercise of all its Constitutional powers as the same have been or may be defined by the Supreme Court of the United States; and no power exists in the people of this or any other State of the Federal Union to dissolve their connection therewith or perform any act tending to impair[,] subvert, or resist the Supreme Authority of the government of the United States. The Constitution of the United States confers full power on the Federal Government to maintain and Perpetuate its existance [existence], and whensoever any portion of the States, or people thereof attempt to secede from the Federal Union, or forcibly resist the Execution of its laws, the Federal Government may, by warrant of the Constitution, employ armed force in compelling obedience to its Authority.

  • 44 Mari' // Feb 17, 2009 at 10:49 am

    Excellent conversation! I’ve just been introduced to your blog by a friend and I will be following along. Thank you!

  • 45 Sandune // Feb 17, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    This is very enlightening. I have been looking for a sight like this. I hope you people are for real. I have been gathering data and information pertaining to a lot of this. But never reached a real sight.

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  • 47 Eris // Feb 19, 2009 at 2:54 am

    Update: The mainstream media’s picking this up.

    Jaw-droppingly biased story, though; state sovereignty isn’t even mentioned:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090219/ap_on_bi_ge/bucking_the_stimulus

  • 48 Robin // Feb 19, 2009 at 11:18 am

    the USA is a tool for regular people to live in liberty. We need to find a way for increasing numbers of people to live in liberty. if the USA breaks up, it fails (not the idea, just this attempt at success), if the USA goes socialist, it fails (and may indeed erupt into another civil war). in my opinion the only way to succede is to strip a great deal of power from the federal gogernment (if they stay in charge, we will surely fail) and return it to the states and people. Let’s have a little diversity, and let it begin with the states.
    Robin

  • 49 20 States Move to Reclaim Their Sovereignty | The Last Post of SANITY // Feb 19, 2009 at 3:18 pm

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  • 50 KEVIN // Feb 20, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Sovereignty

    sov•er•eign•ty

    Function: noun

    Etymology: Middle English soverainte, from Anglo-French sovereinté, from soverein
    Date: 14th century

    1 a: supreme power especially over a body politic b: freedom from external control c: controlling influence
    2: one that is sovereign ; especially : an autonomous state

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  • 51 KEVIN // Feb 20, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    It was a rare occurrence… perhaps unique is a better word, as it was the first time in history that a group of people declared themselves to be sovereign, free and independent individuals and decided to cast off the shackles of tyranny and undertake the task of creating a new nation, independent and self governing.
    Thirteen colonies previously subservient to another were transformed by their own declaration thirteen free and independent states… sovereign states.
    Where does this sovereignty originate and how does it relate to the state?
    Sovereignty originates with the individual, each and every individual is a sovereign entity, their life is their own, and they hold supreme power over themselves free from external control or controlling influence. To be sovereign is, in fact, the natural state of man.
    A state is nothing more than a group of sovereign individuals who reside within a given geographic boundary and these individuals comprise the body politic for that given geographic boundary.
    State governments are a creation of these sovereign, free and independent individuals; these governments derive their power from the people and are therefore subordinate to the people, the sovereign, free and independent individuals that granted them their very existence. These State governments hold no right or privilege to negative powers over the sovereignty of the people.
    The sovereign, free and independent individuals that reside within a state are all co-ordinate to one another, equally they are co-ordinate to the individuals that reside in the other states. No one individual is subordinate to another unless by choice. The governments of the several states are, likewise, co-ordinate to each other, no one state government being beholden to another.
    However all state governments are subordinate to the sovereign, free and independent individuals that created them.
    From 1777-1789 these states operated under the instrument given the name the Articles of Confederation. This instrument was nothing more than the document that spelled out the rules under which these sovereign states would interact with one another; an agreement between sovereign states entered into voluntarily by each state, with each state retaining it’s own sovereignty with the balance of power residing within the individual.
    The states continued to operate under the Articles of Confederation for some ten years until it became clear to the states that this instrument was insufficient to continue the prosperity of the union of states.
    It was at this time and because of this realization that the states sent delegates to discuss what should be done. The result of the discussions and the recommendations that resulted from these discussions was a convention to revise the Articles of Confederation in order to preserve the union.
    However, the convention did not result in a revision of the existing instrument, but the creation of a new instrument, the Constitution of the United States of America and the creation of a federal government.
    There were many attempts during the convention to create a “national” government instead of a “federal” government and the distinction between the two is very important to understand because they are as different in contrast as night and day.
    The creation of a “national” government would have essentially removed all state sovereignty and created a supreme central power that held negative powers over the states and the people. Even though this form of government was suggested many times during the convention it was wholly rejected at every attempt.
    The state delegates had no interest in creating a supreme power nor were they given the power to do so. As deputized representatives of their respective states they were only given the power to revise the existing Articles or to take part in a “federal” form of government with all state sovereignty remaining intact.
    A “federal” government is a form of government that is given power by sovereign, free and independent states to act merely as a “hub” for the states
    And it possesses no powers other than those granted to it by the states.
    Our federal government was created with the ratification of the Constitution by the states, with the Constitution being nothing more than the instrument that the states used to create the federal government, establish the rules under which it is to operate, grant it specific powers and limit its powers in all areas other than those specifically granted to it.
    The federal government is in no way a “supreme” power, it possesses only the limited, specific and enumerated powers that were granted to it by the states via the Constitution.
    This fact is spelled out in the Constitution itself and restated in the 9th and 10th amendments that followed with the ratification of the Bill of Rights. As being a creation of sovereign states, the federal government possesses no negative powers over the states or the sovereign individuals that reside in those states respectively. It is, in fact, subordinate to the several state governments just as the state governments are subordinate to the sovereign individuals within their respective geographic and political boundaries. As a creation of the states and in as much as it is subordinate to the states the federal government possesses no right or privilege to expand its powers beyond those which were granted to it at the time of its creation.
    In this respect we are truly a people with a government, NOT a government with a people.
    It is this understanding that sadly seems to escape most of us today. Too many of us feel that the federal government is our supreme master to which we are all subservient. Nothing could be further from the truth and yet we act like it every day, constantly allowing it to reach far beyond the limited, specific and enumerated powers that it actually possesses. And equally as sad is the fact that while we all seem to be dissatisfied with this usurpation of our sovereignty by our subordinate, we choose to do nothing about it other than quietly complain to ourselves as we continue to operate day to day under the tyranny of our own creation. And as so much as I find this to be a sad fact; it does not surprise me in the least.
    It would seem that most of us, as Americans, have little use or desire for the actual and real state of being free, sovereign and independent; we seek not, nor do we yearn for the liberty which is our birthright.
    And while we seem to have no use for these things, we do. Strangely enough, seem like the sound of them. Constantly expounding such phrases as “We are free”… “This is America”… “I have rights”… “That’s unconstitutional”… and so-on… All the while having not the faintest clue what we are talking about, let alone the fact that we, by our own ignorance, are doing much to destroy the very freedoms that we pretend to care about on a daily basis.
    Which brings me to another point ….“American Ignorance”!!!!!!
    I hear people all the time, from individuals on the street, to media personalities, to the very politicians that we trust to operate our republic… talking about “our democracy”… “This great democracy”… blah.. blah… blah.
    And yet no one seems to realize that we do not live in a democracy… we live in a republic! Not once in the Constitution of the United States is the word “democracy” even found!
    The men that drafted the Constitution saw a democracy as one of the worse forms of government ever created.
    WHAT????? HOW CAN THIS BE????
    Well I’ll tell you… a democracy puts all of the power in the hands of the majority.
    It gives a group of people the right and the power to vote away the rights and property of another as long as they comprise 50% + 1 of the voting populace. A democracy is not an exercise in liberty; it is an exercise in mob rule.
    A democracy is just as damaging to individual rights as any totalitarian ruler or regime could be and in most cases probably more so.
    Our republic was founded on the principal that individual liberty is paramount above all other political motivations. That the life, liberty and property of one individual is not subject to the whims, wants and desires of another individual or group of individuals. And even though we haven’t acted like it lately, that principal is still the rule of law and the foundation upon which all of our governmental evolutions have been laid.
    So, you made it this far… congratulations… now what?
    First, don’t take my word for it… READ!!!!!
    Read about the founding of this nation, more importantly, read about the fundamental philosophies upon which this nation was founded.
    Read John Locke, read Thomas Jefferson, read Ayn Rand, read John Taylor of Caroline… there are so many resources out there I couldn’t begin to list them all. Understand that your life belongs to you and you alone and once you understand it, start acting like it.
    Take responsibility for yourself!!!!!!
    Take responsibility to control your subordinates, i.e. your local, state and federal governments. If you don’t like the fact that they are acting outside the rule of law and outside of the limitations that are placed on them by the rule of law the use the rule of law to put them in check!
    The power to change things lies within the sovereignty of the individual and within the rule of law!!!!!!
    The federal government IS subordinate to the states, tell your state representatives to remind the federal government of that fact… have them put the federal government on notice!!!! New Hampshire already has as of February 2009… (Google it… (New Hampshire HRC 6), So has Oklahoma, and over 20 other states have similar legislation under consideration.
    The rule of law is not dead, we have just chosen, by our own laziness, to allow our governments to ignore it.
    It’s not only your liberty that they are stealing, it’s your liberty and the liberty of your children and grandchildren and great grandchildren…
    Fight for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 52 State Sovereignty Bill Filed in the House Today | Arkansas News // Feb 20, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    […] resolution is part of a grassroots movement in state legislatures across the country as a protest to the intrusion of the federal government into state government affairs. Oklahoma […]

  • 53 Oh Yeah, a Sternly Worded Letter Should Do the Trick | Arkansas News // Feb 22, 2009 at 12:25 am

    […] and local heartthrob Jason Tolbert went into greater detail about the resolution and linked to other sources who are all jacked up about the issue. Tolbert says that according to Woods, the last straw to give […]

  • 54 Bunny Ramey // Feb 22, 2009 at 1:10 am

    Sure hope they get the courage!

  • 55 Estel Powell − Add Arkansas // Feb 22, 2009 at 4:46 pm

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  • 56 Mary in TX // Feb 24, 2009 at 12:51 am

    Kevin. What can I say? You said it all, and so eloquently. I am cutting and pasting your post, printing it and sending it to EVERYONE I know. You have given me the foundation under my feet that I knew was there all along. Thank you, thank you and thank you again. These are the words that will save us. God Bless you.

  • 57 Mike // Feb 24, 2009 at 3:10 am

    Very well said Kevin, Thank you for posting that.

  • 58 Tracy from SC // Feb 26, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    SC filed the Sovereignty Resolution 2-12-09,
    and if the mood of the ladies and gentlmen of my State are any indication, they might aught to pass that thing rather quickly. With recent news, I’m suprised that the Secession talk on our Talk Radion Stations hasn’t moved from the Radio to the Streets.

  • 59 Brian // Feb 26, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    NC is ready to fight. Bev Purdue will most likely not file for a Sovereignty Resolution; however, the NC Militia is ready to uphold our rights.

  • 60 B.D.Sylvia // Feb 27, 2009 at 2:12 am

    I am a resident of Montana, I have been for 14yrs now, after leaving the state of my birth, because I could no longer stand the organized corruption that I watch grow for most of my life, dispite the attempts to prevent it. Because I now see the necessity for it, I am now in the prosess of establishing a Constutional Militia. . . it will be called ‘The Militia Corps of Montana’. We are only in the puilinary stages right now, but hope to be together by spring. . . Watch for us. B.D. Sylvia

  • 61 Tigers, Bears, and Sovereignty // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:47 pm

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  • 62 G SCHNUR // Mar 1, 2009 at 12:05 am

    THIS 10th AMENDEMENT REVOLT IS NOT ANY AN ATTEMPT TO REMOVE THE STATES FROM THE UNION BUT RATHER AN ATTEMPT BY THE STATES TO BE ABLE TO TAKE PART IN INTERPRETING THE CONSTITUTION. WHEN THE SUPREME COURT MAKES INTERPRETATIONS IT IS DOING SO AS A MEMBER OF THE FEDERAL GOV. AND THUS JUST ADDING TO ITS’ POWER. THE FED HAS TO BE CONTROLLED AND THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE BY THE STATES. PERHAPS THIS WILL TAKE A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION TO GET IT DONE.

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  • 64 Dave Nalle // Mar 1, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    A constitutional convention could just as easily make things worse as better. It’s too uncontrolled an environment at this stage in the game. Plus the established political parties would never let it happen unless they controlled it, and if they did control it the results wouldn’t be what we want.

    Dave

  • 65 Dennis Wilson // Mar 1, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    Regarding the Articles and the Constitution: Excerpt from my August 6, 2006 Libertarian Enterprise article, available at http://dennisleewilson.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=10.0

    After spending considerable time … reading Lysander Spooner’s 1870 comment that “The Constitution has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it”, followed by Kenneth Royce’s Hologram of Liberty, I concluded that indeed, the Constitution is not broken, it is working as it was intended and that without nullification by secession (thanks to Abraham Lincoln), the Constitution is unenforceable.

    It should be obvious to anyone who cares to look that the Constitution no longer limits U.S. Government actions. Therefore, the (alleged) legal source of the U.S. Government’s authority is defunct, null, void, gone, and what we really have is an “archy” with a bunch of thugs and con-men running around impersonating Government rulers as officers and agents. The people in control of the U.S. Government have no legitimate authority (if indeed they ever did), they cannot be held accountable because they are the enforcers, and therefore the Constitution is unenforceable. I cannot see how a revised, “improved” Constitution can correct that situation. It became apparent to me that the best way to “remove the contradictions” in the Constitution is to follow Jefferson’s advise in the Declaration of Independence— “…whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these [protection of individual rights] ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it”—and to completely abandon (i.e. abolish) the Constitution, to begin again with the Declaration of Independence and to fulfill the promise of “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” found therein by understanding and adopting, on a personal level, L. Neil Smith’s Covenant of Unanimous Consent (see http://dennisleewilson.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=7.0 for a copy of the Covenant, supporting articles and discussions in one place).

    Galt’s Oath and the libertarian Non Aggression Principle (NAP/ZAP) are moral/ethical principles. The Covenant of Unanimous Consent is a political statement of interpersonal relationships based on those moral principles. Unlike the U.S. Constitution–which was created by a committee of Lawyers to replace the (much better) Articles of Confederation, while both Jefferson and Adams were in Europe–L. Neil Smith’s Covenant actually FULFILLS the promise of individual freedom in Thomas Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence. The Covenant is simple, rational, personal, easy to understand and even short enough to memorize.

    The Covenant also satisfies the objections noted by Lysander Spooner. Instead of being a document that describes how the government shall act, and a document YOU did not sign, the Covenant is a document that describes how YOU will act and is a document that YOU voluntarily sign, if you agree. Those who do not sign (the “dissenters” mentioned by Ayn Rand above) are not punished, they are simply and clearly warned what to expect if they violate the rights of Signatories. It is indeed the political foundation, the “legal framework needed to establish and maintain a free society open to all, including dissenters” as was suggested by Ayn Rand. Recently Hans-Hermann Hoppe addressed this same issue in his essay The Idea of a Private Law Society at http://www.mises.org/story/2265 and does an excellent job of showing how such a society could and would function. It is remarkably similar (without giving credit) to that described by L. Neil Smith in The Probability Broach.

    (If you study these same items and reflect on the “no rulers” nature of Galt’s Gulch, you may come to a similar conclusion.)

  • 66 The European Union: A Mirror for Americans? | Grizzly Groundswell // Mar 2, 2009 at 1:14 am

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  • 67 Charging Elephants .com » The European Union: A Mirror for Americans? // Mar 2, 2009 at 2:06 am

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  • 68 March 2, 2009 « Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? // Mar 2, 2009 at 8:01 pm

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  • 69 Tracy from SC // Mar 2, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    I see that someone is aware of the danger of a Constitutional Convention. Yes, it could do as much damage as help, but what we are facing is a complete take over by the Federal Government. They will never pay attention to our Resolutions, since they couldn’t care less what we say, think, or do. The only way to get their attention is, not on the State level, but on a Citizen level. We need to organise in each State and raise cain. We need to Start demanding that our States take action, over and above resolutions. We will either threaten secession, and be willing to back it up, or we will lose the Nation anyway. At this stage of the game, we have no choice. Only question is, how many out there are willing to stand by their convictions. Who has the sand? I am. And am starting just such a movement in SC on a local level. Any takers?

  • 70 Dave // Mar 2, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    You’re not alone, Tracy. People all over the country feel the same way and a real movement is starting. I’ll do what I can to chronicle it here.

    Dave

  • 71 Hillary - Colorado // Mar 3, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    I am so relieved to find this site! I will be following along as well. Thank you, Dave.

  • 72 Mild Bill // Mar 3, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    When state governments fight with the federal government, sometimes it is the people who are the losers.

    Oklahoma’s “sovereignty” resolution is packaged as a measure that opposes unnecessary meddling by the federal government. But, it is actually a clever power grab by Oklahoma’s State Government.

    To understand this, please consider that there
    are two types of rights or powers that are recognized in our national constitution. When we’re talking about the rights or powers of “the people,” our nation’s founders were very clear in stating these two cases: (1) Powers that are enumerated; and (2) Powers that are unenumerated.

    The 10th Amendment preserves the powers of the people by stating that, “The powers not delegated to the United States [federal government]… are reserved to the States… or to the people.”

    In this wisely written clause, neither the State nor the Federal government claims all powers. It is implicitly recognized that “the people” share the power in our system of governance.

    In Oklahoma’s sovereignty resolution, however, the people have been left out of the equation.

    Oklahoma’s resolution — which, thankfully, hasn’t yet been approved by our State Senate — says this:

    “…The State of Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over *all* powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States. ” (Emphasis added).

    This resolution appears to be the product of an authoritarian type of political philosophy. It is packaged as a resolution that opposes federal meddling in state affairs. But, in reality, the resolution does little to re-define the relationship between the federal government and our state government here in Oklahoma.

    Rather, the main effect of the resolution is to change the balance of power between the State government and the people of Oklahoma. The resolution boldly and unapologetically proclaims that ALL unenumerated powers belong to the State.

    It is an audacious grab for power. It spits on the people’s claim to the unenumerated powers that are mentioned in Article X of the U.S. Constitution. Followed to its logical conclusion, it would circumvent future social progress — by denying that the people possess any powers except those that are explicitly laid out in our nation’s founding document.

    When elephants wrestle, the grassroots get trampled. That’s the situation we’ve got in Oklahoma with the State government proposing to fight the federal elephant. The people’s rights are fixin’ to get tromped.

  • 73 Tracy from SC // Mar 3, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Remember the old saying “I’ve got some good news, and some bad news”?
    The Good news is that the good Citizens of South Carolina are still willing to back up our beliefs, and stand for whats right. They are serious about telling the Federal Government to go to HxXX, and to kiss our Axx on the way.
    Now for the bad news…The good Citizens of South Carolina are still willing….well, you get the idea. The Situation here is ominus to say the least. Every time the “President” opens his mouth, either on TV, the Radio, or in Print, guns sails go through the roof, as does the sales of amnunition. Can anyone guess what that means?
    As the late great Queen of England once said…”We are NOT amused.”
    The support for the President has virtually evaporated here. Those who did support him thought he supported what they believed. Finding out has made them very mad. There are Conservative Meetings, “Tea Parties”, Political Meetings, and a lot of talk on News Radio. All of it bad for Obama.
    People here are looking at the Stock Market, listening to the News on the Radio (The big three on TV are virtually ignored here…no more credibility), and they are not liking what they are hearing.
    To be honest, I’m rather concerned about the number of firearms being sold here. If the Feds try to mess with guns or ammo, that might be the last shot over our bow that the people will take.

  • 74 Gadsden Flag // Mar 4, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Update in SC:
    COLUMBIA — South Carolina lawmakers have advanced a measure asserting state sovereignty, saying they want to send President Obama and Congress a message.

    The resolution declares the Palmetto State has the right to ignore any federal law or policies it deems unconstitutional. Similar resolutions are being considered across the country.

    A Senate panel approved it today. The House has already passed a similar measure…

  • 75 Dave Nalle // Mar 4, 2009 at 2:47 am

    Bill, I understand your concern about the wording, but I am positive that what you describe is not at all the intent of the Oklahoma resolution or the other similar ones.

    Dave

  • 76 Dave Nalle // Mar 4, 2009 at 2:48 am

    Remember, it IS asserting the supremacy of the 10th Amendment and the 10th Amendment DOES reserve rights for the people, not just the states.

    Dave

  • 77 Mild Bill // Mar 4, 2009 at 7:31 am

    Dave, thanks for your reply. I continue to be concerned about the effect of this “sovereignty” resolution. The language of the Oklahoma resolution is similar to some other measures being proposed in other states.

    The resolution explicitly asserts that the state claims ALL powers under the 10th Amendment (except those delegated to the federal government). Why does the resolution fail to defend the powers that are held by “the people?” It appears to be a deliberate omission.

    In effect, the resolution claims to disempower “the people.” Why would anyone support that?

  • 78 China given Eminent Domain in US // Mar 5, 2009 at 1:53 am

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  • 79 Kevin // Mar 5, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    So disappointed, but not surprised, that Illinois isn’t on the list of states here. I can’t wait to leave this state, it’s politically an embarassment.

  • 80 jim // Mar 6, 2009 at 2:07 am

    lets get rid of what dosent work well and start from there we need to remeber 3 key words

    ” WE THE PEOPLE “

  • 81 Karen // Mar 7, 2009 at 2:10 am

    One of the reasons Texas hasn’t filed a sovereignty resolution bill is because we don’t need to. Texas is the only state that refused to give up their right to sovereignty when it joined the Union. Hawaii is also an exception but that is because they were a territory and became a state without the need for signing “treaty” agreements.

  • 82 Tom // Mar 7, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    ‘ We have staked the whole of all our political
    We could divide the country in half. Left on one side and Right on the other. The only problem is somebody would have to work on the Left side to pay all those taxes??

    institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.’
    James Madison – 4th US President and Father of the Constitution!

  • 83 Tom // Mar 7, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    We could divide the country in half. Left on one side and Right on the other. The only problem is somebody would have to work on the Left side to pay all those taxes??

    ‘ We have staked the whole of all our political
    institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.’
    James Madison – 4th US President and Father of the Constitution!

  • 84 Dave Nalle // Mar 8, 2009 at 3:57 am

    Right about Texas, Karen. But it’s not the only state. Hawaii, Alaska, Vermont and Rhode Island all have reasonable claims to retaining sovereignty.

    Dave

  • 85 Paul // Mar 8, 2009 at 5:45 am

    Remember where the Fed gets its money… the states. All of this worries me, anyone with a brain cell understands at any moment to include strong economic times, democracy hangs on by a thread. Every country fails at sometime or another, and evey civilization has civil war(s) (plural). It would be very dumb for us, US citizens, to ever think we are immune. I understand that their is a larger populace in states like CA and NY, but they are in a weak position with deep deficits. States like TX, that are in GRAND condition compared to CA and NY do have an advantage to flex their muscle if they so choose. If the fed were to make a mistake and push back, that can potentially lead to deep anger with like minded states, and be in itself the motivation that leads a sound separatist movement. The US being in a compromised positon, we already see countries like Russia and China flexing, as can a very strong state in the union. I would advise the Fed govt. to tread wisely, because in my opinion, a state like TX can survive on its own and co-exist with the US as a neighbor in harmony, but if TX goes, it will take about 20 states with her. Twenty states that are not in bad shape, compared to CA and NY, this would bankrupt the US, as she relies on such states tax revenues. Remember, the US is not on the gold standard, and such an event would lower the US’s AAA rating with the world i.e. all countries pulling all their money out over night. Also please understand, because of the difference in political ideology, most of the U.S. nuclear innovations are in republican states because liberal states said no to nukes… and, please correct me if my figure is wrong, but last I checked, 60 percent of the volunteer military in the US are from southern states… that weird southern pride thing leads me to believe that they will not “turn” on their home states, and a huge number of military bases, weapons cache, etc are housed in southern states, oh yea, Fort Knox is in KY too. Last but not least, where are the majority of the US’s oil refined… southern states, and where is the US’s national oil reserve…southern states. Please don’t blast me, and I am sure I misspelled a word or two, I am just looking at this situation objectively, and the way I see it, because of political ideology, the southern states are not in the weak position it was in when it engaged in the civil war, and if the crapp hit the fan, I doubt they will just hand everything I just mentioned over to the US without HUGE concessions. Seeing the US would be broke, the UN may have to step in.

  • 86 Tracy from SC // Mar 9, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    OK, let me speak from a not so objective standpoint. I understand that, according to conventional wisdom, the current laws will support both Tx and Hawaii, and a few other with a strong claim to the right to seceed. WRONG.
    The US Constitution states that the Federal Government is required to see that the States have a REPUBLICAN form of government. That means Elected, and Representative. At the end of the “Civil War”, the North stepped in and APPOINTED representatives in the Confederate States. They then, on threat of force, forced those states to pass laws, and adopt State Constitutional Amendments that gave away their right to seceed. ON WHAT PLANET WOULD THAT HOLD UP IN A COURT?
    Answer…none.
    Every single law passed in the Confederate States by any “Legislature” appointed by the Federal Government and not elected by the people is ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
    Now, as for the United Nations stepping ANYWHERE…you want to she the spit hit the propeller blades? That would do it. I state for the record: I am a proud American. I believe in the United States Constitution, and the American Nation…BUT, I will not stand for the sinking Ship of State pulling South Carolina down with it. President Obama has made a drastic error in his thinking. He is PRESIDENT of the United States, not King. The movement is growing here in SC, and unless the President REVERSES his policies, his course, and his attitude, there will be secession here. If I sound emotional, I admitt, I am. I have a College Education, and am not ignorant of where his policies will take us, even if the other members of the Federal Government are. And yes, I do hold firmly to my Bible and my Gun. He can have either one or both any time he wants them…from my Cold Dead Hands.

  • 87 Dave // Mar 9, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    . At the end of the “Civil War”, the North stepped in and APPOINTED representatives in the Confederate States. They then, on threat of force, forced those states to pass laws, and adopt State Constitutional Amendments that gave away their right to seceed.

    This is not exactly true. The confederate states were briefly under military rule. Then they did get to elect representatives, but anyone who had served in the confederate military or government service was barred from voting for 10 years, so the result was that a lot of African Americans and recent arrivals (carpetbaggers) from the north ended up getting elected.

    States were not generally forced to give up the right to secession they did it voluntarily under governments dominated by radical republicans during that 10 year period after the war. North Carolina, however, WAS forced to ratify the constitution which it had not done.

    Dave

  • 88 Patriot or Traitor - Page 2 - // Mar 9, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    […] Patriot or Traitor Patriot, Here is a link that describes a little about what is afoot. State Sovereignty Movement Quietly Growing AJ __________________ If some is good and more is better, then too much is just right. I’d […]

  • 89 Fighting Back Against Fascism: Are these tactics effective? « Hope2012 // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:20 am

    […] expect that in addition, another 20 states may see similar measures introduced this year, including Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, […]

  • 90 karl hilbert // Mar 13, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    fuck obama and nancy pelosi long live state rights. hope ohio joins list

  • 91 I'mWithTracyFromSC!! // Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17 am

    Tracy,
    I live in Wisconsin :-(
    I have a sister here.
    Would you adopt us both please?
    :-)

  • 92 Obama don't short oil importation.... // Mar 17, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    […] Fathers Constitutionalized Republic, opposing millennia of ruling elite are still at work see: State Sovereignty Movement Quietly Growing Globalization at work sees: US Gives China Eminent Domain Over US Property […]

  • 93 Betsy Ross // Mar 18, 2009 at 1:21 am

    This is all well and good, expect that this state sovereignty is unnecessary, and another one of those “shut up” moves by the state legislatures rather than doing what they need to do in order to curtail the federal government and act as “representatives” of the people rather than “agents” of the feds. In Article IV, Section 4 it already asserts the “sovereignty” of the states by “guaranteeing to each state a Republican form of government,” and the Tenth Amendment already reinforces that any and all powers not given to the federal government rest with the states and the people.

    This is redundancy, and will serve no purpose unless and until the states actually start suing the federal government for “lack of performance” when they don’t provide the revenue or resources for the enumerated powers, or start filing “injunctions” when they overstep their powers and start forcing the state’s and people to cowtow to their unconstitutional edicts.

    This is nothing more than a move in “word” that will not be enforced by “deed,” unless more energy is put into confronting the state legislators also on the “negligence” in doing their proscribed functions when the feds are either out of line, or themselves negligent in their duties.

    Nothing more than more bureaucracy and looking like they are doing something, when actually doing nothing at all.

  • 94 Tracy from SC // Mar 18, 2009 at 3:00 am

    Actually, I’d love to adopt, if my wife’s health would allow for it. However, there is an alternative: There is a March on DC being planned for July 4th. I will be there. I’ll have a coin changer on my belt, and a Gray Confederate cap on. (I’m a Taxi Driver, so expect anything) Also, I’m more conservative than Rush Limbaugh.
    The problem is that the President thinks he is a King. He’s had 18 Executive orders in the first 3 months of his term, Anyone know how many Bush had by this time? I don’t. But what he’s doing is forcing the American to choose between three choices; either Socialism/ Communism, A revolution, or another Civil War. Guess which I pull fore…(hint, it’s not the first one.) The damage is done. With the debt we’re in now because of Obama, we’ll be lucky if the Dollar doesn’t collapse into NEGATIVE integers. Monopoly Money will be more valuable than the Dallor. The paper that a 10 dollar bill is printed on will be worth more than the 10.

  • 95 Ricky // Apr 8, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    If I am not mistaken the president was created to be used as a puppet of the government. He was only granted a real power when Andrew Jackson got to veto Acts of congress
    If I am wrong you can BLAME the GOVERNMENT who funds the schools in Texas

  • 96 AZPAT // Apr 9, 2009 at 1:24 am

    33 STATES HAVE DECLARED OR HAVE PROPOSED DECLARING SOVEREIGNTY UNDER THE 9TH , 10TH AND 2ND AMENDMENTS….OBAMA AND HIS WALL STREET THUGS HAVE BILLS UP FOR THE VOTE THAT TAKE AWAY OUR BASIC FREEDOMS…BILL 793, AND 794 GIVE HIM THE POWER TO SHUT DOWN THE INTERNET ….TO CONTROL DISSENT ..IT SAYS THEY WILL BLACK IT OUT TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM COMMUNICATING NEGATIVES AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT..ANOTHER BILL TELLING AMMUNITIONS MANUFACTURERS THAT THEY ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO MAKE AMMO FOR THE MILITARY IS PENDING..NO MORE AMMO FOR PUBLIC PURCHASE..THE LIST GOES ON AND ON….THE THINGS THEY ARE DOING ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL….HE HAS DONE MORE DAMAGE TO THIS NATION IN 70 DAYS …THE TAIL IS NOW WAGGING THE DOG……..WE THE PEOPLE HAVE TO STAND …GIVE ME LIBERTY

  • 97 Chuck // Apr 28, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    You people are nothing more than a bunch of America hating traitors. If you hate this country so much, move to another country. There are plenty to choose from and the rest of us will be better off without you, and you can find a country you like.

    Most of us love our country, do not want to live in another country, and do not believe we would be as free or have anywhere near the rights we do in a country set up by you. That would be nothing more than a right wing dictatorship.

  • 98 Kirk // May 11, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    From what I have observed, much of this movement gathered alot of momentum when Obama with disarming Americans. This signal should have been picked up by the majority of people when Obama remarked that “country folks in times of desperation clinged to guns and religion”.

  • 99 MIKE // May 13, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    IT’S TIME, AMERICA !!!!!!!

    OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WERE CALLED “REBELS”, “RADICALS”, “TREASONOUS”, ETC ETC ETC.
    FACT IS, THEY WERE FED UP WITH TYRANNY—UNDER ANY NAME; UNDER A-N-Y PRETEXT.
    IF THEY WERE LIVING TODAY, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN HEARING THEIR VOICES AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS LAST CENTURY, WHEN THE AMERICAN PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT BEGAN (WITH TEDDY ROOSEVELT)……
    THE LONGER WE DO NOTHING & REMAIN SILENT IN FEAR—INSTEAD OF SPEAKING OUT WITH WISDOM & COURAGE—-THE MORE COSTLY WILL BE THE INEVITABLE BATTLE TO RETAIN OUR UNALIENABLE RIGHT TO EXERCISE FREE WILL ON THE SIDE OF FREEDOM.

    THERE’S A SAYING: “THO IT INCREASE OUR SUFFERING FOR THE MOMENT, IT WILL SHORTEN OR TIME OF SLAVERY.”

    —-WE A-R-E IN BONDAGE TO OUR DESPOTIC FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S TASK MASTERS WHO HAVE RIPPED THE REINS OF CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNANCE FROM OUR VERY HANDS, WHILE STOMPING OUR FACE WITH THEIR HOBNAIL BOOTS OF TYRANNY……

    MUST OUR CHILDREN BE TAKEN FROM US?—-CHILD “PROTECTIVE ‘SERVICES’ ” ALREADY DOES THIS;

    MUST OUR INCOME BE COMSUMED BY EXCESSIVE TAXATION?—THE IRS ALREADY DOES THIS;

    MUST OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH BE DENIED?—THE PROPOSED CENSORSHIP DOCTRINE ALREADY THREATENS THIS;

    MUST OUR RIGHT TO FREELY TRAVER IN THIS REPUBLIC BECOME MONITORED?— MILITARY CHECKPOINTS ACROSS THE NATION ARE ALREADY BEING EXPERIENCED….;

    MUST OUR AMMUNITION & WEAPONS BE RIPPED FROM OUR HANDS?—THIS IS THE PROMISE PROCLAIMED BY OUR SLAVEMASTERS IN CONGRESS;

    MUST WE SURRENDER OUR BLOOD-BOUGHT REPUBLIC’S CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS OF THE LAND TO THE OUTRAGEOUSLY CORRUPT U.N.’S DESPOTIC GLOBAL TREATIES?—-THIS ADMINISTRATION’S CONGRESS & ‘PRESIDENT’ INTEND TO DO PRECISELY THIS: ACTING AS “ANGELS OF LIGHT” WHILST PAVING A HIGHWAY TO HELL WITH A CONTINOUS STREAM OF GLIB LIES, & THE DELIBERATE INTENION OF MESERIZING INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY….

    DECEPTION ALWAYS MASQUERADES AS TRUTH, BUT IS STRIPPED OF ITS PRETENSE WHEN CONFRONTED WITH TRUTH.
    MAN IS CREATED WITH AN INNATE DESIRE FOR FREEDOM. EVEN LUCIFER WAS NOT DENIED HIS FREEWILL OPTION TO REBEL AGAINST A JUST GOD—HOW MUCH MORE SO ARE WE ENTITLED BY OUR CREATOR HIMSELF TO THROW OFF THE SHACKLES FORGED & STILL BEING FORGED BY THOSE WHO PRETEND TO GOVERN FOR OUR GOOD?
    THE HOUR IS LATE……& DARKNESS IS SOON UPON US.

  • 100 MIKE // May 13, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    IT’S TIME, AMERICA !!!!!!!

    OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WERE CALLED “REBELS”, “RADICALS”, “TREASONOUS”, ETC ETC ETC.
    FACT IS, THEY WERE FED UP WITH TYRANNY—UNDER ANY NAME; UNDER A-N-Y PRETEXT.
    IF THEY WERE LIVING TODAY, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN HEARING THEIR VOICES AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS LAST CENTURY, WHEN THE AMERICAN PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT BEGAN (WITH TEDDY ROOSEVELT)……
    THE LONGER WE DO NOTHING & REMAIN SILENT IN FEAR—INSTEAD OF SPEAKING OUT WITH WISDOM & COURAGE—-THE MORE COSTLY WILL BE THE INEVITABLE BATTLE TO RETAIN OUR UNALIENABLE RIGHT TO EXERCISE FREE WILL ON THE SIDE OF FREEDOM.

    THERE’S A SAYING: “THO IT INCREASE OUR SUFFERING FOR THE MOMENT, IT WILL SHORTEN OR TIME OF SLAVERY.”

    —-WE A-R-E IN BONDAGE TO OUR DESPOTIC FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S TASK MASTERS WHO HAVE RIPPED THE REINS OF CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNANCE FROM OUR VERY HANDS, WHILE STOMPING OUR FACE WITH THEIR HOBNAIL BOOTS OF TYRANNY……

    MUST OUR CHILDREN BE TAKEN FROM US?—-CHILD “PROTECTIVE ‘SERVICES’ ” ALREADY DOES THIS;

    MUST OUR INCOME BE COMSUMED BY EXCESSIVE TAXATION?—THE IRS ALREADY DOES THIS;

    MUST OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH BE DENIED?—THE PROPOSED CENSORSHIP DOCTRINE ALREADY THREATENS THIS;

    MUST OUR RIGHT TO FREELY TRAVEL IN THIS REPUBLIC BECOME MONITORED?— MILITARY CHECKPOINTS ACROSS THE NATION ARE ALREADY BEING EXPERIENCED….;

    MUST OUR AMMUNITION & WEAPONS BE RIPPED FROM OUR HANDS?—THIS IS THE PROMISE PROCLAIMED BY OUR SLAVEMASTERS IN CONGRESS;

    MUST WE SURRENDER OUR BLOOD-BOUGHT REPUBLIC’S CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS OF THE LAND TO THE OUTRAGEOUSLY CORRUPT U.N.’S DESPOTIC GLOBAL TREATIES?—-THIS ADMINISTRATION’S CONGRESS & ‘PRESIDENT’ INTEND TO DO PRECISELY THIS: ACTING AS “ANGELS OF LIGHT” WHILST PAVING A HIGHWAY TO HELL WITH A CONTINOUS STREAM OF GLIB LIES, & THE DELIBERATE INTENION OF MESERIZING INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY….

    DECEPTION ALWAYS MASQUERADES AS TRUTH, BUT IS STRIPPED OF ITS PRETENSE WHEN CONFRONTED WITH TRUTH.
    MAN IS CREATED WITH AN INNATE DESIRE FOR FREEDOM. EVEN LUCIFER WAS NOT DENIED HIS FREEWILL OPTION TO REBEL AGAINST A JUST GOD—HOW MUCH MORE SO ARE WE ENTITLED BY OUR CREATOR HIMSELF TO THROW OFF THE SHACKLES FORGED & STILL BEING FORGED BY THOSE WHO PRETEND TO GOVERN FOR OUR GOOD?
    THE HOUR IS LATE……& DARKNESS IS SOON UPON US.

  • 101 States to feds: Stay in D.C.! – Lawmakers in 20 states move to reclaim sovereignty « Locust blog // May 14, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    […] expect that in addition, another 20 states may see similar measures introduced this year, including Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, […]

  • 102 James Hendrix // May 15, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Take a look at Coalition To Save America on the web and this is what ALL AMERICANS should be focusing on: FREEDOM!

  • 103 Robert (Wyoming) // May 23, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    After reading the above comments, there is a lot of truth to those comments. State soverieghty is the way to do the job. Protect your home land and family. Tyrannt government stay out of Wyoming, you are trouble . The 1st and 2nd amend needs to be protected from tyranny such as Obama and his slobs. The 2nd amend is now incorporated to the 14th ament as of April 20,09

  • 104 VICKIE GELVIN // May 24, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    I am from Oklahoma and have been watching the news about this. It won’t be long and maybe AZ will be right before them or maybe after, but this is something that needs to be done. The State Soverieghty is the only way to get the job done. How else can we protect our families!
    The Federal Government is just out to tax us all to death. Tax us to the hilt. I am ready for the STATE TO TAKE OVER and boot the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

  • 105 Zashkaser // Aug 5, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Thanks for posting about this, I would like to read more about this topic.

  • 106 Simeon // Aug 6, 2009 at 7:51 am

    The rise of state’s rights and autonomy might change the US from a federation to a confederation.

  • 107 Mike // Aug 21, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    There is a large movement in the State of Nevada that is quietly growing that would support the Sovereignty of the state over the Federal. Now some law makers are going to introduce a bill that would change the state constitution that would say the federal goverment will have the right by armed forces if nessasary to keep Nevada in the Union. Very interesting that the law makers want to use force in there own state to suppress the will of the people.

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  • 109 SAm W. Keenon // Sep 15, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Years ago there was such a movement as this. There was even a States Rights Political Party which offered up the Honorable John Sparkman of Alabama as its presidential candidate.

    Had the rest of the nation paid attention then we would not be in the mess we are now.

    I am afraid we are now too far down the big federal government/socialistic trail to reverse the process. I pray daily that I am wrong

  • 110 adnerb // Sep 18, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    I just read about a proposed sovereignty amendment to the Ohio Constitution. The link is: http://www.pccoh.com/ . According to the article, State Resolutions have no force of law, but an amendment does. The resolutions are well-meaning, but aren’t worth that much if the federal government is able to override them.

    I am not a lawyer, but it seems to be that amendments are a better way to go than are resolutions.

  • 111 Ukraina Dziewczyny // Sep 23, 2009 at 10:59 am

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  • 112 Kiruha // Sep 27, 2009 at 12:41 am

    Хорошо, давайте обсудим это в отдельной теме. Хотя это не столь важно.

  • 113 screamerct // Nov 7, 2009 at 4:37 am

    Wazzup! I’ve hung around watching and reading for ages here.

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  • 114 ScottZeeman // Jan 11, 2010 at 1:32 am

    After reading some of the above comments, there is a lot of truth in them. The way to do the job is State soveriegnty . Protect everything-your home, land and family. I’m all for it.

  • 115 Allan Campbell // Feb 23, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Fatal flaw of State sovereignty movement is that they must submit to the final decision made by a governing branch of Washington,D.C. Namely the U.S. Supreme Court. With everyone viewed thru the lens of law and court as being a 14th Ammendment person, its akin to taking silent judicial notice that every U.S. citizen is a citizen of District of Columbia[a.k.a. United States] and citizen of D.C. in whatever State one resides. In other words, we are all federal citizens ,extensions of Washington D.C. All govt. documentation,be it local,County,State or D.C.,they are all 14th Ammendment recognition documents. Since the Great Depression everyone has been, unknowingly, taught and led to self contract out of the position of law and authority the Founding Fathers occupied. Founders never existed under the 14th Ammendment. They were county Citizen,state Citizen, American Citizen, but never a County resident,State resident, U.S. citizen. Hooven & Allison v. Evatt evidences two United States operating in law simultaneously. Plethora of Supreme Court case law further identify D.C. as being a foreign nation in respect to the States. Key point of relevence: we all exist within the body of Washington,D.C. as legal fictions of law having a commercial character regulated in commerce. Social Security #, purposeful availments[benefits,privileges[ U.S. citizenship is revocable privilege],use of federal reserve notes & negotiable instruments, govt. programs are all a commercial nexus which D.C. asserts sovereignty over by Commerce Clause,U.S. Constitution. All 14th Ammend. persons are paper documents regulated in Commerce. Their are no dejure,bonafide “People” for govt. to serve. Remnant party to original contract between govt. and people is govt. Between States and foreign nation D.C. all persons are in/under D.C. The States are abandoned in terms of ” original ” citizenship. Figuratively speaking, its like D.C. claiming the abandoned power of People that predates the 14th Ammendment thus making full power of People inhere within D.C. contractually as evidenced by everyone’s voluntary consent and participation. Its what made America into Democracy being that the Republic is abandoned. Collective State power is effeminant to the power of D.C. What rebuts such court presumptive recognition[ Doctrine of Recognition] are American born exiting the 14th Ammendment by perfecting themselves in regard to 10th Ammendment standing. This repopulates the abandoned republican form of govt. that was guaranteed . There is no power of People under the 14th Ammendment. Original powers are antecedent to D.C. creation. Were State actions empowered by 10th Ammendment standing class of People,weight of power would favor the States. Dependency upon federal funding is the States achilles heel. Were People to step out of the 14th Ammendment to reactivate 10th Ammendment rights, they could reserve the right to vote on every given subject matter thus making public notice/recordation of what with specificity and particularity is the will of the people. Such public record process directly compels specific performance to obey relative to how Representatives are to vote. The bonds which underlay their oaths and affirmations can directly be attacked by charging affidavits rendering them unbondable and disqualified from further public office. Can’t be done? No problem. All 10th Ammendment standing People called forth in each county to put aforesaid new right to vote. Notice in county paper held sufficient for govt., such is process to emulate. All it takes is minimum of one dejure,bonafide, 10th Ammendment standing Citizen in each county,every state, to vote new right creation. Then record one’s vote in public record to be followed by notice of new rights reserved and outcome of votes. Its a People process outside the scope and purview of govt. authority and jurisdiction. This evidences collective will of people. First vote to record is to sponsor everyone still under the 14th Ammendment into automatic 10th Ammendment recognition. This makes everyone equal and empowered with right to directly participate in future voting process where Representatives can finally know what is the true will of the people. This countervails political pandering and catering to special interests and diminishes clout or pressure from foreign lobbyists. Its about People check & Ballance power over all American govt.,as opposed to the democracy scheme limiting rights and constraining 10th Ammendment power recognition. Being that courts bless people with the right to change their govt., perhaps its time to consider becoming one of the People they’ll recognize . What leads to idiot wars is trying to change the system from within,being that the power of People is outside.

  • 116 Allan Campbell // Feb 23, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Apologies for lack of paragraphs.

  • 117 Peggy // Mar 16, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    AZ just signed into law her 10th Amendment sovreignty! YIPPEE!!

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  • 120 Gary Snay // Aug 11, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    I feel as though I am witnessing the downfall of my country as I watch the Tea Party (Secessionists) destroy what is left of the rule of law. We get a black President and the gates of racism open up and flood our nation with bigotry. Make no mistake. The Tea Party’s (Secessionists) wrath extends to anyone with brown skin whether they are citizens or not. In mass, the Tea Party (Secessionists) got away with racism regarding our President and flush with their success, they now turn their hate toward brown people, citizen or not.

    The rule of law includes the “Equal Protection Clause” of our Constitution. Its protection extends to all citizens of our nation. Our Constitution also has the “Supremacy Clause” regarding Federal Jurisdiction and the 10th Amendment. In other words, the 10th Amendment does not have validity. The 14th Amendment grants citizenship to all who are born in the United States. It is the law, like it or not. You cannot just wave a wand and nullify that part of our Constitution. The 4th Amendment protects all citizens from illegal search and seizure. A civil liberty Bush Jr. forgot and the Tea Party (Secessionists) people supported.

    According to the Tea Party (Secessionists), if Citizen’s Civil Liberty’s are violated, that’s alright. Implementing Arizona’s new immigration law opens the door to the destruction of all our Civil Liberty’s. It is the wholesale abandonment of the rule of law by the Tea Party (Secessionists) which guarantees the downfall of America. Yes, immigration reform must take place. However, it must take place within the scope of our Constitution. Anything less will destroy our nation.

    It is amusing to hear Tea Party (Secessionists) types complain about people being in this country illegally, then propose solutions destroying the rule of law. What is wrong with this picture? The rise of a large segment of our society, filled with hate, bigotry and racism, willing to disregard our Constitution, abandon all that has made this country great throughout our history and willing to abandon the rule of law, is what will destroy America, from within.

    Threats against our President, threats against the Federal Government, threats to use guns if the Tea Party (Secessionists) does not get its way, threats against our Constitution. These are the true threats to America. This activity, practiced by the Tea Party (Secessionists), represents the greatest damage to our beloved country. Only the clear and present danger from within our borders, by the Tea Party (Secessionists), can destroy our nation.

    The Tea Party (Secessionists) is well on it’s way to abandoning the American people for their own selfish purposes and for their notions of superiority over others. I am watching the destruction of my nation unfold before my eyes. Let’s hope some grey haired, pot bellied, ex-hippie, practicing tongue speaking and masturbating over pictures of dead people, doesn’t find out where I live and try to kill me.

    The Tea Party (Secessionists) movement is getting out of control. New sedition laws need to be passed. Encouraging insurrection should be against the law. Elected officials should be thrown out of office if they engage or encourage insurrection using the 14th Amendment, paragraph (3).

    Yes, America can use some corrections. However, these adjustments must be done as one nation under God and within the framework of our Constitution. Anyone speaking of secession is an enemy of the state. Any State seceding from the United States will destroy our great country. Do not wave the American Flag proclaiming your patriotism and then promote secession. You are at best a traitor. The Southern States once dreamed of destroying the United States and good men and women from across this land rose up and engaged in “The War To Save The Union”. I for one, would wear Union Blue in a new endeavor to save our Union once again.

  • 121 Darrell A. Swank // Aug 13, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    I find your logic a bit flawed. Maybe you’ve been away from the real world too long. Maybe the Country need s the threat of an internal revolution, to get the idiots in the Gov’t to actually earn these horrid sums of money they are paid.
    Or by chance do you feel we should open or boarders to any and all, give them what we dont give our own citizens ? I believe that they are called “ILLEGAL ALIENS ” for a reason. Throw them out…..they dont have to go home, but they can’t stay here.
    France will take them

    DS

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  • 123 The 28th Amendment, the Ruling Class, and Patrick Henry // Nov 7, 2010 at 9:15 am

    […] At worst, the Power Elite will (continue to) pass laws designed to de-claw, dis-empower, and disenfranchise “we the people.”  As Thomas Jefferson wisely observed “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” (Link) […]

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  • 125 Lawmakers In 20 States Move To Reclaim Sovereignty « Political Vel Craft // Sep 26, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    […] expect that in addition, another 20 states may see similar measures introduced this year, including Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, […]

  • 126 Lawmakers In 20 More States Move To Reclaim Sovereignty! « Political Vel Craft // Sep 26, 2011 at 2:24 pm

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