August 31, 2008

Alex Jones: Putin’s Meat Puppet

By Dave

Alex Jones has certainly engaged in plenty of bizarre behavior in his constant narcissistic quest for attention for his crackpot ideas and paranoia merchandising. Yet his recent activities have dwarfed past outrages with an air of desperation which suggests that he realizes that fewer and fewer people are taking him seriously. Of course, if that’s a real concern, he has hit on the wrong solution, because getting weirder and more obnoxious is just going to alienate more people.

His latest escapade is to volunteer to become a wide-eyed apologist for Russian imperialism. His ingrained hatred of the Bush administration has led him to take the maxim “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” to a dangerous extreme. Instead of applying the same suspicion to others which he applies to Bush and the Neocons, he naively assumes that anyone who is out to get Bush and his cronies must be a good guy. The problem is that your enemy’s enemy can still be an evil bastard, and that’s the truth he’s failed to recognize about Vladimir Putin and his expansionist Russian administration. He has apparently missed one of the big lessons which came out of World War II, that being opposed to the Nazis did not make Stalinist Russia any less evil.

It’s truly bizarre that Jones questions everything to come out of Washington or the Bush administration, but is willing to swallow every bit of Russian disinformation whole and basically let himself be hollowed out and welcome Putin’s controlling hand up his backside and let Putin’s lies spew from his mouth. The height of his irresponsibility came when he decided it was a great idea to appear on Russian propaganda TV to praise Putin and denigrate the United States, reinforcing and lending legitimacy to the Russian administration’s blatant lies about the Georgian conflict.
In the broadcast on Russia Today, Jones compliantly mimics the talking points of the Russian Prime Minister, repeating the lie that South Ossetia and Abkhazia are traditionally Russian possessions. They actually have small Russian minority populations and were made part of Georgia by treaty in 1992. He even repeats Putin’s absurd claim that the Bush administration is heightening tensions with Russia to help McCain’s election bid, a clever twisting of the reality that the Russians are heightening tension to lend credibility to Obama’s anti-war campaign. The line of bull which Russia is slinging to excuse their imperialism happens to fit really well with Jones’ paranoid beliefs about the fictional New World Order, so he has let himself get sucked into helping to promote their grand deception.

Jones makes himself the very portrait of a person driven so hard by irrational hatred and paranoid fantasies that he’s willing to let himself be used by people as evil as any group he opposes without even considering the consequences. It’s troublingly reminiscent of the less well-publicized early career of Lee Harvey Oswald whose resentment of the US government led him to become a willing pawn of the Soviets. Apparently Jones thinks that using his voice to legitimize Russian disinformation so he can get airtime on their propaganda network somehow gives him added prominence and legitimacy, except that anyone but a child can see how he is being used and made a dupe by Putin. Jones complains about people being pawns of the ridiculous New World Order, yet willingly makes himself a pawn of hostile imperialists whose threat is very real. He may fancy himself a master of propaganda and deception, but when playing with the Russians he’s just out of his depth.

Jones’ behavior can be explained away by the fact that he’s a community college dropout with zero experience in foreign affairs who makes his living by spreading misinformation and promoting irrational fear and hatred through his books, movies and radio show, but ignorance and opportunism are really not an acceptable excuse. For Jones it pays to be outrageous and it pays to pander to the fears of the delusional and uneducated. They’re his audience and the sheep he fleeces for a iiving. Yet there has to be some point at which even they draw the line. Becoming an active agent for a hostile foreign power really goes beyond the scope of Jones’ usual self-promotion and destructive behavior. You have to ask if this is the last straw which will finally make his followers see his foolishness and start to wake up.

21 Responses to “Alex Jones: Putin’s Meat Puppet”

  1. Mark Says:
    September 3rd, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Alex lost his mind after 9/11. I firmly believe that while he was just a bit kooky up until then, he has now become a tool for every rabid anti-American agenda out there. I oppose big government, but that guy opposes reason. His continued selling of the notion of controlled demolition of the World Trade Center towers on 9/11/01 is simply more fodder for dolts. It’s stunning to watch him now take the side of Putin and the Russians as they do to Georgia precisely what it is that Alex claims to oppose. Why? Because like all good American statist-huggers, Alex has never seen a foreign dictator he doesn’t love. To listen to him, they’re all our puppets, anyway…

    As I said, Alex completely lost his mind after 9/11. Up until then, he was just an entertaining buffoon. Now, he’s a dangerously deluded thug.

    Mark

  2. Mike Says:
    September 3rd, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Alex Jones is a media-whore, plain and simple, to whom no publicity is bad publicity.

    My immediate reaction to the situation in S.O. was that Saakashvili got the go-ahead from someone in the States (as Putin accused). However, it seemed perfectly reasonable to me at the same time that Russia had indeed been planning the attack on Georgia proper for some time (as Saakashvili accused and the cyberwar of the previous month suggests). In no way could I believe Putin or Medvedev when they claimed they were trying to avert a humanitarian crisis– it’s like us saying we were trying to “liberate” the Iraqi people and “spread democracy”. But at the same time Saakashvili was making claims that were discredited by U.S. Military Intelligence reports.

    I still don’t quite know what to make of the situation, as it had yet to fully play out, but if “new world order” meant just that, a new geopolitical order (as the post-Soviet era of a unipolar world was) and not a cabal of shady elites, as Jones would have it, then this may be the birth of the new world order: Russia is back as a major power (economically and militarily), the EU is functioning as a single diplomatic entity (Sarkozy’s cease-fire), and the U.S. has lost all credibility (“it is unacceptable to invade a nation and depose their government in the 21st century). Not to mention the fact that all of this started on the first day of the Olympics, the day that China was “coming out” as a major power.

  3. SME Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 2:13 am

    This is another of Jones’s bizarre reversals. When Putin came to power, Jones ranted for a solid hour about him being a “demon”, never to be trusted.

  4. Infowarrior Says:
    January 5th, 2009 at 7:19 am

    I’ve said this time and time again. You people are weak and unintelligent. Alex Jones does nothing but provide factual reports from the individuals in our world attempting to bring us one world govt, THEIR WORDS. He is not a theorist, nor an opinionist. He is a patriot that should be saluted on sight for fighting for our constitution, our sovereignty, and our rights. You people should kill yourselves for bad mouthing an individual risking his neck to protect your way of life. Go kill yourselves…

  5. Dave Says:
    January 5th, 2009 at 10:17 am

    IW, the problem here is that if you read the sources Jones cites without his bullshit interpretations, they rarely if ever say what he claims they do.

    Dave

  6. Infowarrior Supporter Says:
    February 18th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Actually Dave, you are very general in your attacks on Alex Jones. I too have looked in to the sources and found them crediable. If you can specifically find non-supporting citations, then instead of giving a general attack on Alex, attacking him personally like calling him a clown, that would be better. there are plenty of supporting evidence in Alex’s site that makes it worth cross referencing it. I have not found many if any sites like you say… that just poo-poo the whole statement of Alex wholesale. It is just not so.

  7. Dave Nalle Says:
    February 19th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    IS, for the most part you don’t need sources to refute Jones. It’s quite sufficient to use his own sources and apply reason to them instead of paranoia.

    I realize that logic is a foreign concept to his supporters, but it really does work.

    Dave

  8. Dave Nalle is an Inside Job Says:
    February 22nd, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    Dave,
    I just read your article on the states’ rights movement, and found it well written. Upon further investigation of who you are I find you irrelevant to the truth. Your site is gaunt of valuable information. Your research involves collecting various slams by mainstream media to the truth movement…for god sakes, you have a link to South Park. Alex Jones has links to his movies, and sources and has a radio show and a following that is growing exponentially. You should shut this site down and save your money.

  9. Dave Nalle Says:
    February 23rd, 2009 at 12:31 am

    If by the “truth” you mean so-called 9/11 truth, then yes, we are mutually irrelevant, since I can’t stand people who engage in doublespeak.

    I have a link to south park to highlight how ridiculous the truth movement is. And as you point out, that’s a hell of a lot better than Alex Jones citing himself.

    If you thought my work on the state sovereignty movement was good, then you might want to consider why someone who makes good sense on that issue doesn’t agree with you on other issues. It could be that I make sense consistently and your beliefs aren’t so consistent.

    And no I’m, not shutting the site down, because for every truthbot like you who comes here with a closed mind, there may be someone with an open mind who will find the site useful, informative and – omg – amusing.

    Dave

  10. 20yearNavet Says:
    March 5th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Your fear of Alex Jones has me convinced he is right.(thanks I needed this).
    Ps: More than 500 architects and engineers (in my honest opinion)(ae911truth.org), are not clowns.
    I know in the Navy, If the Captains’s ship ran aground, he would be relieved of his command. As for the Commander in Chief on 911, he failed to protect his command and should at the very least have been relieved. Everyone responsable for our protection on that day was neither discharged or held accountable for their lack of actions. Arguments over the trade center and what brought down the buildings (two hit by aircraft and one not) IS MUTE NOW THAT A BUILDING IN CHINA BURNED FOR TWO DAYS AND IS STILL STANDING. Also please check ground zero Hiroshima Japan, that building withstood the heat of an atom bomb. Reading favorable comments of this site tells me why millions of Jews marched to their deaths in German FEMA camps without a struggle. The people who believe your tripe Dave, are doomed to repeat Jewish History.

  11. Dave Nalle Says:
    March 6th, 2009 at 1:12 am

    FEMA wasn’t present in Nazi Germany and you ought to check in to the credentials of those “architects and engineers” — most of them are nothing of the sort. And BTW, Bush has already been relieved of command.

    Dave

  12. mike Says:
    April 25th, 2009 at 12:23 am

    Are you serious? All you do is call names like a 12 year old, with no proof to back up any claims you make.

    Your like the Jesters of old, but more like a clown…

    When you grow up and can write a paragraph without calling names, maybe someone would take you serious…

  13. Tom Paine Says:
    May 7th, 2009 at 1:59 am

    You know, I’ve been reading this site for about an hour now, and so far you have not refuted anything Alex Jones has actually said. What you are using here is a well-known debating technique known as the “straw man” argument: this is where you take the things your opponent said, and distort them. Then, you attack your own misinterpretation rather than attacking what your opponent actually said. When I was first exposed to Alex Jones, I was skeptical just like you, but I took the time to investigate his claims with an open mind. I admit that I didn’t like the government very much to begin with, but I have never been a conspiracy theorist. The thing is, you can never deny that the official story of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory. It is logically and scientifically impossible for those buildings to have fallen in the way they did unless it was a controlled demolition. When I began speaking out about this at my local college campus, I somehow mysteriously got poisoned, by a man who later admitted to someone I know that he was a CIA agent in training. I went to doctor after doctor and nobody could tell me what was wrong. Then, out of desperation, I tried a poison remedy that I found in an old army manual. It said to drink some tea and charcoal, so that the charcoal could absorb the poison and carry it out of your body. Guess what? about a week after I started doing this, I started getting well again.
    Because of this incident, I KNOW Alex was right. I was convinced of it before, but after they tried to off me for talking about it, I knew damn well he was right.

    What do you have against this man? All he’s trying to do is stand up for what he believes is right. Even if you don’t agree with him, how could you have a problem with someone who is only trying to promote liberty, justice, and a return to constitutional values.

    I think, if you are so sure of yourself, you should challenge Alex Jones to a public debate instead of spreading misinformation about him. I bet he would rip you a new one if you dared to actually confront him with your lies.
    Thing is, I know you will not publicly debate Alex Jones because all you can do is call names like “conspiracy theorist” and “kook”. Why don’t you actually back up what you say with hard evidence, like Jones does? I’m betting its because you have no evidence, only a juvenile desire to denigrate those who speak the truth that you don’t want to hear.

  14. Tom Paine Says:
    May 7th, 2009 at 2:14 am

    Oh yeah, and your sources are a bunch of baloney. Penn and Teller? South Park? The Onion? Come on…are these really the best sources you have?
    Oh yeah, and someone needs to tell that guy singing the “conspiracy theorist song” that 9/11 truth people don’t get their info from the national enquirer. Also, that moron Robert Pastor actually says in your video that the american people benefit from a high national deficit?!? I laughed out loud when I heard this!

    Come on man, is this really the best you’ve got?
    this stuff is LAUGHABLE!

  15. Dave Nalle Says:
    May 7th, 2009 at 2:58 am

    Ah, Tom. You almost, almost got a clue for a second there on the Pastor comment, but it flew right by you.

    You caught that Pastor is a moron. Very good. But you missed the logical next step which is that if Alex Jones or anyone else believes in the NAU then THEY must be a moron too, because the only source for the existence of the NAU is an article Pastor wrote proposing the idea which he himself has since repudiated.

    Surely you can see that if you take the writings of a moron seriously then you must be a moron yourself.

    As for debating Jones, I’d be glad to do it in a neutral forum. And you ought to read more of the site, everything is backed up by simple logic or by links to factual sources. The great thing about Jones is that most of what he says is so poorly thought out that you can just point to the basic logical fallacy and disprove it from his own statements.

    As for his love of liberty, he does the liberty movement a disservice by making it less credible every time he opens his mouth. That’s one of my main problems with him. I believe in liberty and Jones makes the rest of us look like fools.

    The thing is, you can never deny that the official story of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory.

    Sure, it’s a conspiracy theory. Just one which makes sense, has factual documentation to back it up, and is supported by first hand testimony by some of those involved.

    It is logically and scientifically impossible for those buildings to have fallen in the way they did unless it was a controlled demolition.

    The surety of the ignorant. Follow some of the links on this site. The controlled demolition theory makes no sense at all and runs totally counter to the evidence and scientific principles.

    When I began speaking out about this at my local college campus, I somehow mysteriously got poisoned, by a man who later admitted to someone I know that he was a CIA agent in training.

    You’re paranoid.

    Dave

  16. Tom Paine Says:
    May 8th, 2009 at 7:38 am

    The fear of a North American Union is not based solely on the writings of this Robert Pastor guy. The only reason you think that is because they stopped calling it the North American Union after they realized how unpopular it was. Now they call it the “security and prosperity partnership”…in classic orwellian fashion, they call it the opposite of what it really is. Kind of like how the patriot act is one of the most unpatriotic pieces of legislation ever passed. You are correct in that the NAU does not currently exist. What you don’t understand is that even the fact that it was seriously considered is cause for some alarm, because numerous authorities from the US Govt all the way up to the UN have openly talked about world government, and the NAU would certainly bring that closer to reality.
    If you are willing to publicly debate Alex Jones, what are you waiting for? get ahold of him and do it! Don’t sit here and type about it, GO DO IT if you’re so sure of yourself!

    And on the subject of 9/11, it will be my pleasure to disprove what you say. Instead of engaging in childish character attacks, let’s look at some of the key evidence:

    1. Steel buildings do not fall as a result of fire, or the impact of planes. It has never happened. There are numerous examples of buildings that have either caught fire, been hit by planes, or both, and nothing remotely like the WTC collapse has ever happened.
    I would be happy to provide you with as many of these examples as you would like, complete with locations, dates, and building schematics.

    2. When buildings collapse, and it isn’t a controlled demolition, they don’t implode into their own basements the way the two towers did. Buildings which were right across the street from the towers, although they were damaged, are still standing today. The perfectly symmetrical nature of the collapse, and the fact that it collapsed at free-fall speed, are totally consistent with the controlled demolition hyphothesis.

    3. There are numerous eyewitness accounts of secondary explosions in the towers as they went down, and you can even see these secondary explosions in almost every piece of collapse footage.

    4. How do you explain the lack of air defense response on 9/11? Where was NORAD? Answer: they were stood down on the morning of 9/11. Do you really expect anyone to believe that Al-Qaeda had the authority to make NORAD stand down? I mean, you can even listen to the NORAD tapes from 9/11 (which I have) and you can hear the actual moment when they realize it is real and not a drill: that’s how they did it. They made NORAD think it was a drill until it was too late to stop it.

    5. Jet fuel never burns hotter than 1800 degrees fahrenheit. It takes AT LEAST 2500 degrees fahrenheit to melt steel, and the towers only burned for about an hour and a half. Plus, you can see a lot of the jet fuel from the plane burn up in a giant fireball when the plane hits.

    6. There was a huge amount of thermate residue found in the rubble of the towers. Thermate is what they usually use when they demolish a building of this size.

    7. how do you explain the fact that ALL the buildings in the WTC complex were destroyed…even the ones that weren’t even in the impact area? I suppose you don’t know that Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex, took out a big fat insurance policy on the complex shortly before 9/11, and he made out like a bandit. He actually turned a profit from 9/11! If there had been less damage, the insurance payoff would not have been as large, so all the buildings had to go.

    8. Larry Silverstein, the former owner of the WTC, admitted on PBS that building 7 was a controlled demolition. That much is beyond question. It was demolished on the afternoon of 9/11. So let’s get it straight: we are supposed to believe that a 47-story building was prepared for demolition in just a few hours, when it was allegedly on fire so bad that they didnt think they could save it? Come on…if you don’t believe me, do what I did: call up a demolition company and ask them how long it would take to prepare a building of that size for demolition. They will tell you that it would take at least a few days. It is clear that the buildings were rigged for demolition before the planes even hit.

    9. Many people and groups had prior knowledge of 9/11 before it happened, and there are literally more cases of this than I could possibly reprint. I would get carpal tunnel before I could reproduce all of them.

    10. When the WTC was bombed in 1993, the FBI wound up with egg on their face because their informant, Emad Salem, secretly recorded all his conversations with his FBI handlers, and it can be conclusively shown that they knew about the bombing and made a conscious decision not to prevent it. That’s why the media never mentions this bombing anymore.

    11.Many, many people have been persecuted by the establishment for simply asking questions like these. People have been arrested, beaten, jailed, tasered, fired from their jobs, etc., just for asking the hard questions. If the government was really able to disprove these so-called conspiracy theories, why don’t they do it?

    You might say I’m paranoid, but I say you are willfully ignorant, which is far worse. If you truly are someone who believes in liberty and the restoration of our constitutional republic, surely you must see that 9/11 has been used as an excuse for numerous infringements of our liberties. Read the Patriot Act, The Homeland Security Enhancement Act, The Military Commissions Act, and the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act. And that’s just some of the biggest ones! Without 9/11, none of these laws would have passed. Is it really that hard to believe that the people who benefited from this tragedy just might have been involved?

    All I ask of you is this: disprove my arguments. Anyone can call names and slander the character of someone they don’t even know…If you can disprove what I say, I am listening.

  17. Padraig's Ghost Says:
    December 13th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    External finance and control of Jones, and some of the others like him by people who are not our friends? Very, Very Possible! He may well be a tool. I do think that people like President Obama may also be tools… Who, what when, where, how, why; I don’t know? Who ever it is who winds up people like Jones may also wind up people well above his paygrade. I first thought President Obama was a well meaning but misguided socialist, now I don’t know? I don’t like the way our country is going but I can’t blame it all on just one poor man in office for less than a year. If President Obama is commited to the American people, then the first thing he can do is audit the fed, cut taxes, and begin balance the budget. If not he he will only be a four year president. Then crazies like Jones can have another president to spin really crazy theories about. What is next, David Rockefeller is a alien or fallen angel or anti-christ…

  18. Alex (Baby wants his bottle?) Jones Says:
    November 26th, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Alex Jones is a crybaby.

  19. Semper Fi Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    What i have to say is simple, facts can be misleading, for instance, more than 80% of Americans are in favor of a nuclear test ban treaty, yet with the educational levels, accumulated socioeconomic statuses, and class wars, it is impossible for 80% of the country to understand the intricacies of a nuclear treaty, therefore the numbers lie. The fact is that Alex Jones is a person who has found a way to make money from others simple minded laziness, people who want someone to blame for their poor lots in life, rather than get off they’re glutes and do something about it. They would rather point the finger and say “He’s the reason im poor, its a conspiracy, thats why i have to do….this that or the other.” The truth….which is never easy but always true, is that while yes there are those out there who seek to keep an aristocratic society, people like Mr. Jones are antigens for liberty, freedom, and truth. Mr. Jones please move to Russia and leave America alone. you have the right to say what you want, but you dont have the right to mislead, incite fear, and give laziness a leg to stand on. Blame those who won’t do for themselves and those who are desensetised to the world around them, ironically enough; it’s those people who are the ones who buy his books and watchs his movies.

  20. American Fail Says:
    December 21st, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Alex Jones personifies the average American.
    He’s a fat, lazy, loudmouthed idiot.

  21. Mr Off topic guy Says:
    January 6th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    Recently, a lot of people have voiced their grievances at me making completely off topic comments. So in an attempt to keep the whiners happy, here goes.

    Alex Jones is a goofball.

    So anyway. Here are my views on Presidents Choice Cola.
    I know some people call it Puke and Choke, Piss and Crap, but it is actually not bad tasting and is half the price of the overrated coca cola. And studies show that you are less likely to get irritable bowel syndrome and rectal cancer by drinking PC cola.

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