August 16, 2008

The Government is Not Poisoning You With ‘Chemtrails’

By Dave

When I was a kid I spent a lot of time on planes flying from country to country and a fair amount of time looking at the sky from the ground, fascinated with the space program which was taking us to the moon and beyond. I never looked to the skies with fear or terror, but only saw it as a blank canvas for amazing possibilities.

One of the things I saw in those skies were lots of straight white lines, sometimes in pairs, usually very high up, which my father identified as contrails. He had been a navy flyer in World War II and had seen plenty of them up close and personal He explained that they are lines of frozen water vapor formed when the hot and humid exhaust from a plane’s engines encounters colder air high in the atmosphere and turns to ice crystals, essentially producing artificial clouds behind the plane.

That seemed like a pretty reasonable explanation for many years, but imagine my surprise to be informed that these trails of cloud were not, in fact, mere frozen water vapor, but were actually ‘chemtrails‘; not trails of condensation, but trails of chemicals nefariously released into our atmosphere by the government or by evil corporations or even by aliens for all sorts of arcane purposes, from testing biological weapons on the civilian population to reprogramming our perceptions with psychoactive chemicals to causing mass sterilization as part of a UN depopulation program.

The basic origin of the chemtrails conspiracy theory seems to be nothing more than people looking up in the sky and seeing contrails and speculating insanely with no actual basis in fact. It’s a particularly bewildering theory because we’ve had a factual, scientific and verifiable explanation for contrails for generations. To look beyond that explanation requires the kind of paranoid mindset that looks at commonplace things and manufactures nightmares out of nothing. It’s Agent Mulder announcing “I want to believe” and then finding what he wants to believe in whether it exists or not. The classic self-fulfilling prophecy with nothing real behind it.

The idea that contrails were actually something more nefarious is based on several bits of mistaken evidence. First, that contrails seem to last far longer than anyone would expect and that they are increasing in number. Second, that they sometimes form seemingly complex or regular patterns or display strange colors. Third, that some airplanes have mysterious tanks and apparatus in their wings. Couple these observations with a belief that the government is generally up to no good and you get such popular explanations for ‘chemtrails’ as that they are methods of dispersing chemicals over the entire surface of the country to drug the population for any purpose from mass inoculation to mind control, that they are some sort of weather modification program to either cause or prevent global warming, and that they are some method of communicating with aliens or terraforming the earth to be more compatible with alien lifeforms.

The behavior of contrails has been pretty thoroughly researched. They are generally found very high in the atmosphere where conditions can be extremely stable and where very low temperatures make it unlikely for ice crystals to melt quickly. Because they are ice crystals at high altitude they can produce a rainbow-like effect which would cause them to change color or appear sparkly when caught by the sun at the right angle. The increasing number of contrails is solely the result of increases in air traffic at higher altitudes in recent years, and there is a direct correlation. Even today you rarely see as many contrails as covered the sky during World War II, as demonstrated by the photo accompanying this article. Regular patterns are easily accounted for by the standardization of flight routes to and from airports which are used over and over again. As for spraying apparatus and tanks found on commercial airliners, these do exist. They are part of the de-icing system on these planes and their function and purpose are easily accounted for.

The idea that these planes are spraying chemicals is probably an extrapolation based on several real activities, including crop dusting experiments with anti-missile chaff and the occasional experimental seeding of clouds to create rain. A crop-dusting style distribution of chemicals would make no sense from an altitude of 20,000 to 30,000 feet because at that altitude any but the most dangerous biotoxins would be dispersed to the point where they would have virtually no effect, plus from that altitude variations in winds as the particles descend would make it impossible to predict or control where any particles would land. What’s more, carrying out a widespread program like this to disperse dangerous chemicals through hundreds of commercial airliners would involve so many people and so much suspicious activity that it would be almost impossible to keep it secret. Finally, if the purpose was to drug the general population, then the people behind the program would also be drugging themselves and their families either directly or through food sources which would be contaminated with any widely distributed substance pervasive enough to survive high-atmospheric dispersal. As for the claims of effects from chemtrails, there is no statistical evidence of higher rates of sterility or illness of any kind associated with areas of high activity. So this theory fails the test of logic on almost every count.

Other claims are equally easy to disprove. Claims of jets releasing heavier materials are easily accounted for by releases of ‘blue ice’ waste material or fuel dumping, and can usually be specifically identified from airline records. Claims of dreaded criss-coss or other heavy patterns or trails which appear only on certain days are generally directly connected to the activities of flights from aiforce bases, which do fly in patterns on specific days and cross over their own trails. Every paranoid claim about these trails can easily be addressed by a simpler and more logical explanation than some sort of government conspiracy or arcane experiment. In this case the believers are violating the principle of Occam’s Razor, the basic fallacy of looking for more complex and unlikely explanations when a simple and logical explanation is already available.

The government has repeatedly denied the existence of any special chemical component in contrails or any program to disperse chemicals in the atmosphere and the Air Force even released a full explanation of the phenomenon. Of course, those who really want to believe in conspiracies don’t want to believe any claims from the government, so to satisfy them there are a number of scientific studies of contrails, mostly focusing on their potential impact on the environment and aerial navigation. The Discovery Channel even did a program on them in which they tested contrails for dangerous chemicals and found nothing significant. Chemtrail debunking websites are widespread, collecting large amounts of data and linking to all the scientific sources. One compiled by a Danish astronomer at the University of Copenhagen is particularly comprehensive.

Of course, the classic scenario with this particular conspiracy is that someone sees a contrail in the sky, gets sick and concludes that the contrail contained pathogens which brought on the illness. After all, common viruses and bacteria aren’t a good enough explanation for the creeping nasties. A secret government plot makes so much more sense. This is a classic example of the logical fallacy post hoc ergo propter hoc or the failure to prove causation. In this fallacy the subject observes A and experiences B and assumes that A caused B even though there is no provable connection between the two which are really only related by coincidental timing or proximity. Unless he can test the chemicals in the contrail and test his own body and find them and prove that they can cause his malady there is no proof of a connection. The subject probably encountered scores of things that same day which didn’t catch his attention like the contrail which were far more dangerous and more likely to cause his illness. In this case it is particularly illogical, because if he can see the contrail in the sky, then how can it also be at ground level making him ill? That fails the most basic test of common sense. How can the same substance be observed in one place and have an effect on someone more than 5 miles away at the same time?

Contrails are fascinating, but they are not a mystery. They’re a beautiful but harmless byproduct of human technology. They are a well known and understood phenomenon which has been with us since man first took to the skies. We know exactly what they are and how they are created and how they behave. To try to replace that commonplace reality with extravagant and paranoid fantasy just makes no sense at all.

“Every one of you listening to my voice, tell the world. Tell this to everybody, wherever they are. Watch the skies, everywhere, keep looking. Keep watching the skies.”The Thing

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75 Responses to “The Government is Not Poisoning You With ‘Chemtrails’”

  1. Silversurfer Says:
    August 22nd, 2008 at 3:34 am

    Mate, this website is some of your best work, seriously. It’s a hoot, looks great, and it’s oh so accurate. I am passing the URL around. You know we don’t always see eye-to-eye on many things :) but you are hitting the nail on the head very nicely here, old boy. Good on you and thanks for the belly laughs. Cheers.

  2. Dave Nalle Says:
    August 23rd, 2008 at 1:01 am

    Thanks, SS. Glad to have given you a chuckle or two.

    Dave

  3. Uncinus Says:
    August 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    Nice article Dave. I have a minor quibble though: “blue ice” is both very rare, and usually in the form of chunks of ice. Nothing like anything that has been reported as “chemtrail” fallout (which is more likely pollen, spider webs, or tree sap, from most of the descriptions).

    I do a bit of chemtrail debunking myself on my Contrail Science site:

    http://contrailscience.com/

  4. Mike Says:
    September 2nd, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Absolutely! This to me is equally as ridiculous as the flat-earth people that don’t believe the countless photographs of our Pale Blue Dot from a distance or Moon Landing Hoax people who refuse to just whip out their telescope and find some of the mirrors placed on the Moon by Apollo astronauts. Indeed, I can see how this one would take hold, being as how we’ve been doing weather control experiments through cloud seeding for a while now. But people who believe this also believe that much of humanity is to be wiped out in the coming decades, (which, though totally probable–we still have lots of nukes and plenty of emerging technologies that might be an existential threat to the species, not to mention an errant extraterrestrial object or unforeseen environmental disaster–it is believed because of something etched into the Georgia Guidestones, not, god forbid, scientific evidence!

  5. Casey Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    Just because you saw lines in the sky as a kid doesnt mean that they are contrails. Their is documented spraying of people in the San Francisco area in the 1940′s. By documented, I mean declassified govt. documents. Im not saying everything is a conspiracy, I just don’t understand why people think that our “elected” leaders give a damn about us. Especially since a lot of them have come from pharmaceutical companies and stand to make hundreds of millions of dollars off of sick people. I’m not an idiot and I can see apples for apples and oranges for oranges. It is true that ignorance is bliss. Thanks for your time.

  6. Jim Says:
    November 11th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    I think you need to go back and look up the facts on contrals. First off, if it’s just “water vapor” like you say, the plane needs to be around 30,00 feet in the air before it’s cold enough for the contrail to appear. Chemtrails are seen on a daily basis at a substantially lower height than 30,000 ft in the air. In order for it to happen at lower altitudes, the conditions in the sky need to mirror the 30,000 ft one. There’s no mystery to this, it’s basic logic. When the air is fully saturated with water, then contrails will last for longer in the sky before they evaporate. But under these circumstances, the sky would already be filled with heavy clouds, therefore we wouldn’t even be able to see any contrails in the first place.
    Secondly, as for airplanes dumping fuel and “blue ice” waste material, this would be highly illegal to do over a populated city. Besides, doing this wouldn’t leave a white streak in the sky which lasts for hours. The material would fall to the earth with gravity just like everything else.
    Thirdly, as for all the “evidence” of universities and the media debunking the chemtrail phenomenon, where is it all? If there is so much legitimate evidence, why can’t I find it? All I find is sites like this, which is obviously not legitimate and just an opinion piece.
    Fourthly, as for no evidence of sickness from chemtrails, there are lots of reports from hospitals reporting increases in illness after chemtrails covered the area. Yes, it is true that linking every illness to the chemtrail is bogus, but the mere fact that hospitals are coming out on their own linking the two, besides the increase in numbers, shows something is happening. I don’t know about you, but I can’t afford to go to a hospital for a minor normal illness, like you claim these people are having. In fact, you even try to blame the sick people by saying their crazy. I ask, who’s the crazy one here?
    There is no way the lines I see in the sky are contrails. I’ve even seen contrails and chemtrails being formed at the same time at strikingly different altitudes. As usual, the contrail is gone in minutes and the chemtrail persists for hours and gets bigger. I even sometimes see two planes in the sky and close altitudes, one with a chemtrail and one without. Why would this happen? By your logic, wouldn’t both HAVE to be spraying a “contrail”? The lines I see go from one side of the sky to the other and last sometimes almost all day. Only under the perfect circumstances would a contrail last for a significant time in the sky. Is every day everywhere under these perfect circumstances? I don’t think so. Don’t you see unusual x patterns made out of the chemtrail? Also, the planes are mostly unmarked planes (which is illegal to fly) and there even seen turning on and off the smoke. They’re often seen turning around to come back over the city just to spray another line. Please explain THAT to me. If it’s all just nothing, why would the plane be seen turning the smoke on and off? Why would it turn around and pass over the city again? Are all these planes expirencing technical problems and having to turn back? If so, it would be news in most areas. So I would suggest you take a closer look at the facts on contrails. I wouldn’t buy your theories.

  7. bruce Says:
    December 14th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    Right on what Jim stated, debunkers,youre how the government gets away with what they’re doing to the citizens of this country for the benefit of the owners,the elite.

  8. Dave Nalle Says:
    December 15th, 2008 at 12:06 am

    Jim. Almost every silly claim you bring up is already addressed in the article. I have checked out the facts as in the real facts, and they don’t support your delusions. Hell, I’ve seen contrails coming off of joggers at ground level when the weather conditions are right.

  9. HHHmmmmmm Says:
    January 13th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    I read various websites,both pro and anti conspiracy theory(facts?) as a bit of healthy skepticism is needed in this too much information world.There are many far too over the top wacky sites and also far too many that are mouthpieces for governments,corporations etc.However,there are also many well researched and informative sites that challenge the official view.I am not paranoid but anyone with reasonable intelligence can easily see that a majority of the main media are not generally purveyors of the truth.It has and will always be that way.
    So re your reply to Jim
    (Almost every silly claim you bring up is already addressed in the article)
    Call me Stevie wonder but i have read your article and i see only assumptions based on nothing.You present little or no evidence to back up your assumptions and then try to back it up with that ridiculous picture at the head of the article.Correct me if iam wrong but i seem to a jet in front of every trail seen.This is one of the cruxes for the chemtail argument,ie that they remain for a long time(sometimes all day)after the plane is gone.I personally have photographed many of these alledged trails and one thing i do know is that Chemtrails and Contrails are not one and the same.(there are also no Military instillations within 300Km from my home)
    Also as Jim mentioned the governments of the UK and USA HAVE released documents relating to spraying of populations.Why would you think that this practice has been abandoned?
    Your line of questioning on many of the subjects on the website are sloppily researched and that makes you equally as guilty as many of the crackpot conspiracy sites.Your replies would not be out of place on Fox news and their ilk.To simply bludgeon away pertinent questions with half or no truths,or just Your opinions lacks skill to say the least.
    RE.mike
    The argumentative techniques used here are Exactly the same as were used by Flat earthers in the middle ages.Remember,Science also had the evidence then.
    Ps
    The moon IS made of cheese.A scientist told me so.

  10. Pikkukani Says:
    February 25th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Well the moon is made of cheese because I have been there and tasted it. Also I heard a rumor that the US has a weapon that can break apart molecules of any object in such a manner that it because change into free floating molecules. In other words those “ray guns” you read about when you were kids, crap it’s now fact and no longer fiction. Hey people stop take a look around and see what’s going down, there is a man with a gun over there and guess what, we had better beware.
    (apologies to Buffalo Springfield for rewording)
    Well, like the rest of you right or wrong we are slaves period. No one reading this is in the club and guess what you ain’t going to get in that club. Skull and Bones? Naw just kids having fun eating with Hitlers silverware. Look at see how many government people in power offices went to Yale and Harvard? We dumb they smart. Wise up fools stop being afraid of the Federal Government they have no right being in our business. Time for the next war of the states if you ask me. So you going to be a blue coat or a grey one?

  11. Cassy Says:
    March 4th, 2009 at 3:40 am

    I side with Ocam’s razor most of the time. In light of personal observation and documentation including the physical evidence collected off the arm of my room mate,(wispy spiderweb like substance) I can not state conclusively that there is nothing worth examining further here. The substance I mentioned landed on the arm of my room mate while in our front yard she had been at the city dump 20 miles west of our house 45 minutes earlier that day and had seen these same filaments out there. I grabbed some tweezers and a sample cup from my geology kit to collect this strange “web” that was the length running from her wrist to elbow. I grabbed at one end and lifted it from her arm holding it momentarily out in front of me. It did not hang down rather it seemed to defy gravity behaving in a manner similar to smoke. Note we were indoors at this point in still air. I raised the sample cup up to the end of the “web” and as soon as the “web” made contact with the cups lip the sample spun up the tweezers and around itself twisting into a 3 armed radial no more than 2″ in length! I quickly shut the stuff up in the cup where it suspended itself from the lip with 3 “arms” it created when it spun around itself, touching neither the lid nor the bottom of the container suspended from the lip.
    I have observed and documented spray activity and I too have seen these aircraft turn around to pass over the valley I live in again. I have seen sprayers flying along side other aircraft not emitting contrails. I have seen two sprayers cross VERY close to each other. Not the trails the actual aircraft a stunt that would get any air traffic controller in a fit of panic and probably fired! I have 100′s of photographs and hours of video documenting activity within a 50 mile radius of my home. I know the commercial flight paths and ignore activity along those paths.
    I have witnessed these sprayers cutting lazy serpentine paths up and down the population corridor I live in. I have seen them flying low enough to see the riveting in the fuselage emitting thick billowing trails. I have video where you can clearly see the lifting off of matter, yes matter, from the chemtrail into the air above it. It doesn’t matter the weather as I see them on warm, hot, humid,dry,or cold days.
    I have seen and experienced all of this since May of 2008!
    I know there was a congressman who was disciplined for including the term “chemtrail” in an article of legislation a couple years ago, I apologize I don’t have the reference for you at this moment.
    Bottom line is do some research with an open mind. There are several uses for such a program. I suggest you begin with electro magnetic technologies such as the work of Tesla, KGB, & H.A.A.R.P. The latter conducts experiments in earth’s ionosphere. Tesla was called a quack 100 years ago and today the realization of the advanced nature of his work is astounding.
    More than Ocam’s razor I rather like this quote from a book by George Orwell, “In an era of universal deciet, telling the truth is revolutionary.”
    Happy hunting.

  12. notnowplease Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 3:00 am

    We are so tired and awake. We are not going to take it any longer we know something is wrong when the entired world is being sprayed with this mystery substance. Spain Greece Mexico South American skies. who in the world looks up not many of us do. I do here in Hollywood California the planes pounding populated and non populated areas where food g rows up north towards Delhi California tons of plane dust chemtrail. Dont tell me it is oxigen or vitamins I will not belive it. If it is secret and it is dangerous we the people will not know until it is too late. Many of my friends are dying of sudden cancer incurable types and dying young hundreds of us. Even Michael Jackson died God knows of what in the medicines he was taken. So did Elvis poisoned with psychotic drugs from the pharmaceutical anti christ. Get the fuck out of our skies and stop taxing forty percent or more of our salaries in the USA for the elegal unconstitutional taxation to use chemicals to kill of our air. eventually we will not be able to breath and or our lungs will fail be cause we failed to demand the enemy step down. Shame on you airplane drivers and shame on the ones who pay for such secrecy owning our sky and our stars are not vissible any longer downtown LA is foggy so is Japan New York like never before since the 9 eleven all hell has broken lose. plants are not flowering fruit trees are not giving fruits this year you are killing crops food drying out rivers rain what is next will you cut our air supply or charge rent for it? shame on you whoever you are spraying this over our earth it cannot be good for people. I hope earth swallows your spraying planes and sends you all to another dimension in the name of all knowing God I hope this comes to pass the word of God of all that knows is conscious of this spraying and you the evildoers will not win we the poeple will hunt you down in this life and in another life as well. Chemtrail danger from hell get out of our skies and the morons who spray may God call upon you soon and read your name not in the book of life I ask the God of all to find justice for all this evil spraying of who knows what substances.

    We are beings of God and the good that God desires. …It is finished! evil will not prevai.

  13. thoughtcriminal Says:
    September 10th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Idiotwars huh? Well at least you’re not waging any wars on anybody else but yourselves. Not to be totally condescending (which means to down to) but how is it that you can be so goddamn naive (which means you’ll believe anything). The Roman Catholic Church recently admitted to wrongfully condemning Galileo as a heretic for the past 359 years. His crime was saying the earth was round; you know a sphere (looks like a ball). I’m sure even back then “debunkers” like you were snub to ridicule his unpopular belief based on logic, fact, and personal observation. Hey thats an idea! Idiotwars (a title you gave yourselves and aptly so…its your only truth!) should debunk the round earth conspiracy theorists! you guys are tools.

  14. Benjamin Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 4:03 am

    I will agree that many bizarre conspiracy theories have emerged around the “chemtrail” issue.But,that does NOT mean it isnt a real phenomenon.Having studied the subject for a decade as an independent researcher,I have seen human illness,increased soil salinity and conductivity,increased sub-micron particulate levels,and other phenomena.In each case,I`ve found a strong,if not conclusive link to “chemtrails”(or aerosol activity if you prefer)So this IS real.And what i`ve found is consistent with the claims of metallic salts being introduced into the atmosphere.Our atmosphere HAS been altered by these jet operations,and we are ALL impacted by it,not just a few of us.If it helps,just strip away all the conspiracy connotations,and you will still have some very disturbing evidence with grave implications for all life on our planet.This is serious business,folks.Lets treat it that way,for a change.

  15. Sick Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Chemtrails are 100 percent real there like 40 above me right now and not one yesterday Cause it rained the day before, biggest bullshit ever

  16. OMFG Says:
    February 17th, 2010 at 2:00 am

    Fourthly, as for no evidence of sickness from chemtrails, there are lots of reports from hospitals reporting increases in illness after chemtrails covered the area.

    “Lots of reports”? Where? You forgot to link to these peer-reviewed scientific reports linking chemtrail sightings to increased hospital admissions. Ohh, they’re ANECDOTAL reports? Yeah. Like the anecdotal reports (also by hospital staff, and not borne out by actual numbers) of increased psychiatric admissions at full moon? Yeah. Not enough proof for us 3-digit IQ people. Sorry!

  17. lili Says:
    March 5th, 2010 at 2:13 am

    you really must be stupid. especially working with planes.
    contrails and chemtrails are totally different, you idiot.

    contrails happen when the plane is over 30,000 feet and that vapor disappears with a matter of a couple minutes

    CHEMTRAILS happen at an elevation much, much lower. just watch the sky, you’ll see.
    chemtrails DISSOLVE over a mile radius, or more and do not evaporate. they spread OUT for miles [unlike contrails, they DISAPPEAR]
    if you’re at a higher elevation than your city where they spray it over, you will see a hazy fog over the city..

    and you’d really like to tell me those are contrails? right..
    get educated…

  18. Rusty Shackleford Says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    Wow, I thought the 9/11 conspiracy wackos, and the Obama is an african muslim morons were bad.

    The “chemtrails” retards are even more ignorant.

    “and you’d really like to tell me those are contrails? right..
    get educated…”

    LOL

    Written by a trailer-dweller that barely made it past third grade.

  19. dude Says:
    March 20th, 2010 at 6:33 am

    just look up! chemtrails are real and sites like this prove it scumbag. an apple is an apple even if you say it isn’t.look at your videos, penn and fuckin teller? wow, you evil thick cunt

  20. Westly Says:
    April 8th, 2010 at 4:39 am

    dont you see theyare’re makeing our brain’s dull with all of this chemicall spaying. the traills tell the truth they dont even trie to HIDE THEM!! you can look out the window they are’re spaying it now, and iqs of everybodyare lower, its been tested DONT YOU SEE?

  21. Mike Says:
    May 14th, 2010 at 2:45 am

    Westly, thanks for demonstrating the phenomenon of low IQs for us, but there are much simpler explanations. It’s TELEVISON, MASS MARKETING, FAILED EDUCATION, WEED, and ALCOHOL that are making people dumber. duh!

  22. Mike Says:
    May 14th, 2010 at 2:48 am

    re: OMFG It doesn’t count as a 3 digit IQ, if the digits are BEHIND the decimal point!

  23. Mike Says:
    May 14th, 2010 at 2:57 am

    Dave, so glad you mentioned Occam’s Razor. It’s something I have to pull out again and again when dealing with the paranoid.

    Benjamin- props for at least taking a more intellectual angle, but I don’t believe your statistical claims for a second. Cite some legitimate studies.

  24. Dave Nalle Says:
    July 7th, 2010 at 3:40 am

    contrails happen when the plane is over 30,000 feet and that vapor disappears with a matter of a couple minutes

    Lili, I’ve seen joggers give off contrails at ground level under certain peculiar atmospheric conditions.

    Dave

  25. Phobos Says:
    September 10th, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    The chemtrail conspiracy believers are some of the dumbest people around and that’s including the “birthers” who believe Obama is a secret-muslim and was born in Kenya. You know why no one acknowledges your idiotic beliefs and tries to debunk them — because your ideas are fucking idiotic and no one wants to engage in a debate with people who probably also believe in wearing tinfoil hats to protect themselves from the invisible rays being emitted from the Dwarf-planet Pluto by the Military Industrial Complex.

    These kinds of conspiracies are part of the dumbing down of North America. Are we in the Dark Ages? There’s no proof for any of this shit and yet people believe it anyway. The government is certainly engaged in many programs to spy on their own citizens, secretly overthrow foreign dictators, implement foreign dictators. They are also in the pockets of big business. That does not mean that this chemtrail non-sense is real.

  26. RichardK Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 7:09 am

    How do you spot a dumb person? Easy! If they ignore PROVEN FACTS of REAL SCIENCE (Hard work, critical thinking, encourages alternative theories) and believe in PSEUDO SCIENCE (Little or no work, anything is proof, skepticism not allowed) then you my friend have found a genuine 100% gold clad, mint quality DUMB PERSON.

    We as humans KNOW that when water vapor or moist air freezes or lowers in temperature it forms visible VAPOR. Don’t take my word for it, just open your freezer… We KNOW we evolved from Ape and evolution is real (look around you). We KNOW the earth is round, not because we see pictures from outer space (we can’t trust them!) when a thunderstorm drifts towards the horizon it starts to DIP BELOW IT! If the earth was flat, this would indicate that some poor city or town off in the distance just had a monsoon descend upon them! But of course that isn’t what really happened, the storm is the same height above the ground, it just appears to get lower due to the fact that it’s going around a sphere and DUH eventually it’s going to be out of sight. Dumb People don’t think of these simple, easy concepts, they cannot understand them.

    And of course almost all of them get away with acting like that. If this world was sane, those people would be ignored, spit on, looked at funny and would find it very hard to live a normal life. And MAYBE, just MAYBE they would take a hint and think a little harder and join the rest of us normal human beings. But NO, people let them get away with it and even let them write books about it! (Hey! Lets allow these flawed people to program their nonsense into our children’s heads!).

  27. ffedouch Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 5:42 am

    You are like the smelliest shill that was ever born, I feel so sorry for your sad ass, unless you are of course, posting from an underground bunker.
    Tip my fedouch to you sir.
    Transition surfer….

  28. GetSense Says:
    October 26th, 2010 at 12:00 am

    I hate the chemtrail graffiti in the sky. God made the beautiful clouds and the sky to be enjoyed. We don’t need a bunch of morons ruining it with stupid lines all over the place.

  29. MikeC Says:
    December 8th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    contrails only form at 30,000 feet?

    How about Ice fog “persistant contrails” in Fairbanks alaska when it’s cold enough – http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF13/1319.html

  30. sameasyou Says:
    January 14th, 2011 at 4:25 am

    I don’t really know what it is exactly there are so many arguments. So I’m just going to use my societal logic.

    If it is chemtrail and are harming you people then you and the like should ban together and take the issue to your local councils, mayors and govonors. If they don’t listen you take it to the street and protest because it is a BIG deal.

    On the other hand, the fact that no body is doing anything about it, the local headsmen, doctors, nurses, school teacher, students and ordinary citizenry shows that no body yet have hard evidence that chemtrail is harming people.

    If chemtrail is crimal activity then I don’t like it! and something the local community should do something about it. Otherwise, I wish it is nothing harmful but just a chemistry reaction in the air.

  31. Debora Edholm Says:
    January 21st, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    They are chemtrails and obviously you have NOT studied contrails. Two totally different things. It is not easy to know the truth and to see these every day. It has been happening since 2001 that I personally know of. Should you want to bury your head in the sand then do so. However I should mention that declassified information can easily be found online of the Goverment using people in varied experiements without their consent. Are you saying that you just do not feel the Government would do this? Please compare photos before 2001 of the sky to now. When is the last time you saw a pretty blue sky like we used to have? Do more investigation.

  32. Ellis Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    It’s hard to believe that people can take a completely explained phenomena – contrails – and build up such a ridiculous conspiracy about it. Yes, the clouds formed by an airplane can last just as long as any other cloud in the sky. There is nothing magical or suspicious about it.

  33. Julie Says:
    March 20th, 2011 at 1:00 am

    those who can not tell the difference between water vapors left from aircraft, which dissipitates within minutes, and these erratic lines in the sky with constant morning cloud cover, must be blind. Even my 12 yearold started noticing the excessive lines of clouds in the sky. Im not calling conspiracy nor am I in a state of panic over something I dont understand…but..unless this is only going on in Kansas City, MO, one would be an absolute idiot to NOT notice this change. I turned to this site for a logical explanation not a blind eye. At 38 yrs old I know what a vapor trail looks like ;)

  34. Debora Edholm Says:
    April 1st, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Anything that is out of the box is called conspiracy and it gets old. Look at your old photos and look at the blue sky. Study what experiments have been carried out and under the guise of national security. Do you honestly believe the government is going to be honest with you? There have been studies done showing the increased rates of barium and other heavy metals. Open your mind Ellis and do some homework and google open air experiments on civilian populations……………

  35. Lawrence in Phoenix Says:
    May 30th, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Chemtrails huh? Before you fly off the handle, consider these points:

    -If there is some elaborate plot involving the government or some clandestine organization in spraying chemicals all over the globe, then there must be thousands of people that are assisting with it. After all, the chemicals must be loaded onto planes by someone and then subsequently released from the planes by someone else. The chemicals have to be ordered by someone, paid for by another person, produced by someone, marketed and distributed by someone…my point being that there would have to be an entire clandestine network of people whose sole purpose is to poison you and themselves along with their families and friends as well. You wanna sign up for that job?
    -Let’s conduct an experiment. Go get a fire hose. Stand 30,000 feet away from me. Turn on the fire hose and spray it, aiming at me. Will ANY of the water ever come to me? No. That’s because there is considerable air flow and winds in the air above the earth. If you were to spray anything, the air would carry it and disperse it into the atmosphere only to be absorbed in the winds aloft or become evaporation. Most of the moisture above the earth stays above the earth. Very little of it falls in the form of precipitation, otherwise it would rain EVERY time a cloud passes over you.
    -Moreover, go on one side of a room and spray Febreze or Lysol. Have a family member stand on the opposite side of the room and see if they can smell it. Odds are they can’t. Even with no wind to disperse the chemicals, it still dissipates before it is able to travel any considerable distance or even across the room.
    -Lastly, you do realize that the earth is a very big planet. You also realize that in order for any spraying to take place that would affect every single person on earth, that would take constant planes traveling over us spraying some elusive, mysterious substance at a full-time pace in order for all of us to be affected? You’ve seen video footage of aircraft being utilized to put out forest fires, right? Notice how those planes don’t fly and spray for miles and miles at a time? They dump their load of fire retardant and then go get more. Same thing here. You think there are mysterious planes that are nothing more than flying chemical tanks that spray unassuming Americans from 30,000 feet?

    If the government truly wanted to control us, they’d have a much easier time with putting these chemicals in our water supplies, not mysterious tanks of crap being flown over our heads.

  36. Derek Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Having personally released many compounds from airborne platforms: 1)There is no way a substance released at 15,000 ft. ever hits the ground. No it does not disperse into a cloud. 2) The government fell in love with my method and now, it is the accepted method for validation of the math models used to predict transport of toxic releases of chemicals into the environment. It was a stupid method when I presented it and yet now it is the gospel.In short, they did not have a clue how to release compounds from the air. They still do not. This pseudo science approach to the mystery of cooled CO2 and water vapor has created a nation of village idiots. Yeah.. I am sure I will catch flack for what I say..but I know who I worked for and I doubt any of you have. The paper below is one of hundreds based upon my work. You guys should be more worried about the ozone holes created by Aurora and the global warming caused by the release of massive amounts of Sulfur Hexafluoride by the US Govt. You give the US Govt. too much credit..When I first got the assignment..the govt wanted to fill drums with KoolAid or laser dye to witness the splatter marks on the inside of bombed out bunkers. Doh! “We could use SF6 and track the chemical plume using FTIR spectrometers, it would be much more accurate”…but but..that’s a heavy molecule..it will sink to the ground!!!..”Yeah you may be right..hey look a black helicopter!”..dumb ass.
    American Idol is on..go watch it..probably won’t hurt your brain.

    http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=EECD82F4C15C94691A99A2C21446869C.tomcat1?fromPage=online&aid=163703

  37. Derek Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Here is something you should ponder:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/09/national/main7036716.shtml
    No underwriter would have insured this launch because it passed Santa Barbara on the way out of So.Cal. This launch vehicle was not ours. Focus on the real threats..time given away to pseudoscientic pap is time that could have been spent on real dangers.

  38. smarterthanyouall Says:
    September 21st, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    After reading the article and a few of the comments i have come to one conclusion,,,,, you must be one of those assholes responsible for this shit or paid to try and make the smart people stupid as you and most people who commented on your trash.

    You are a moron and an idiot. you do not have the brain or inteligence to try to force this shit into our knowledgeable minds. I can’t even believe your really as goofy and closed minded as you make yourself to believe. You are a hero in your own mind.

    Maybe you could read some information before you run your gate. Is very easy for you retards to call everything conspiracy and act like we are stupid.

    Those are confirmed chemtrails even admitted by government as another lie to control a problem that does not exist, global warming. Get with the program. An alert of 1000 parts per million for aluminum should be issued.

    Explain why at 60,000 parts per million in some places in the USA its not being mentioned.Duh, maybe why you will develop alzheimers when you grow up. You sound like your 2years old.

    After you learn to read and do some searching then you maybe you will shut your cake hole and wake up.

    People who believe in God can easily see through the lies and people like you stupid ass. Unlike you we do know the truth and can easily see through losers like you.

    You will have your day, maybe when they are booting your ass into a concentration camp you will get it or when you keel over because you cannot breath goofball. Happy trails,(contrails)that is fool.

    Oh, and you bonehead freaks who think you have all this knowledge on this subject can blow it out your ass because your stupid and misinformed too!

  39. Your Mom Says:
    September 21st, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    The conspiracy is that the world is a simple place and eveybody else is bad– SO lock yourself up (mentally, physically) and be afraid of all things non american and of different cultural or government idealogy – THATS a conspiracy that is real and is ‘covertly’ happening everyday here. How or Why would you believe the people perpetrating that conspiracy, as an authority on any sort of Truth???? The real Truth is now a conflict of interest, in a world driven completely by commercial interests – “Theres no room for truth if its going to interfere with what im trying to sell you!!! Damn that truth ”

    Hey ‘Dave’ if thats your name – youre FUCKED.. maybe one day the truth will dawn on you based on your humanity – not from what some powerful marketing geniuses have decided theyre going to sell you-or the brainwashing that has so thoroughly been performed on you ..Then youll actually be awake and alive

  40. Baz Says:
    September 26th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    http://www.geoengineering.org.uk/

  41. Baz Says:
    September 26th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    nuf said

  42. Velvet Says:
    September 26th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    I am watching them fly over me right now in a rural area with very little commercial or military air traffic. Row after row of them, almost every day for years and years. I have seen them being laid down across other such places: New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Idaho, Montana, California. Seeing that this thread was still alive after more than three years, I decided to take a look. My husband and I travel frequently by car–who wants to fly these days? We have seen this everywhere. When we stop and ask the locals what they think, they always say they never noticed them. Even in New Mexico when seven of the white unmarked planes were seen at the same time, nobody claimed to have noticed. We are not idiots nor are we lunatics. We have high IQs and several college degrees between us. If, after all the opportunities to view and study this phenomena, a person refuses to see what is right in their face, that person is either not very bright or they are willing dupes like the tools on Fox News. At least those useful idiots are being well paid for their treason.

  43. IB Says:
    September 27th, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    I teach university students and I have learned that university degrees and high IQs are no indication of real intelligence. I once knew a young woman who was one of the highest scoring students in her graduating class and who scored in to top 1% on the MCAT after studying for one week. She believed the earth was no more than 10,000 years old and that evolution was a hoax in the face of hard quantitative genomic data.

    I see two groups of posts on this thread.

    Believers in the ‘chemtrail’ conspiracy:

    Posts rife with spelling and grammar errors that present speculation and anecdotal reports as hard evidence for the existence of ‘chemtrails’. Personal experience trumps rationality and long-standing scientific theory. Flagrant use of the caps lock key. Proclaiming rational people to be treasonous citizens, shills, idiots.

    Rational people:

    Spelling and grammar is good and capitalization is not used to make a point. Constantly try to present logical, mathematically and experimentally sound scientific arguments. Always to no avail.

    There are always people who can somehow stare straight into the face of reason and knowledge and reject it as garbage. Anti-evolutionists, truthers, flat-earthers, moon-landing deniers.

    I wish all of you could take a free course in Chemistry, Physics, and Meteorology. That would make the world a little bit smarter.

    I agree the US government is corrupt and controlled by special interests. There is no conspiracy or mystery involved though. Large powerful corporations buy politicians with campaign contributions (and likely direct bribes). Professional lobbyists steer the course of government decision and indecision. The government dresses up legislation in favour of corporate interest as helping its citizens. The media controls the opinions of the ignorant masses.

    The US has turned into a country that embraces laziness, self-entitlement, low education, and ignorance as a cultural identity. It has nothing to do with chemical treatments.

    Continental European countries experience very high levels of air traffic and yet they have higher life expectancies and are much more demanding of and knowledgeable about their governments.

    Rationality and reason are fast disappearing in America. Conspiracy theorists are part of this receding tide not a rock standing against it.

  44. Velvet Says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Professor IB Said: “Rationality and reason are fast disappearing in America.”

    Exactly my point!

  45. namerequired Says:
    March 14th, 2012 at 3:27 am

    And not one of you nuts worry about the concentrated sprays from weed killer when you use it right next to your faces. But from 30,000 feet, it’s gonna’ change your DNA and make your unborn babies grow tentacles.
    Britney Spears.

  46. grim reaper Says:
    March 19th, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    yea just keep believing in the gov. Ask the Indians.
    there a bunch of liars and they are killing us with there experiments. if chem trails are so safe then why don’t you talk about on the news. gee hope i don’t wake up dead for saying to much about you Assholes

  47. Vince Says:
    March 31st, 2012 at 6:21 am

    It is good to have the other side, people who try to say that there is no such thing. It creates more intensity in the focus to expose this. Anyone with common sense (which is not common as seen by your site), who is awake and aware and has paid attention to the sky since they were born would know that they are spraying. I have seen it in over 15 countries since 1999 and i did not believe until one day in 1999. I am a Air Force VET and it is very clear…if you don’t see this then you can’t see.

    It does not matter if you don’t believe, you may not believe in the wind but it still is there. The good thing about the truth is it eventually comes out after the foolish ridicule, violently oppose and then finally upon waking up come to acceptance. These are the stages of truth. Most here are still in stage 1

  48. Beth Says:
    May 7th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    I am very certain that chemtrails are filled with toxic chemicals. However, I try to make an effort to understand the other side of the story. Your article is interesting and informative, however it does not explain why chemtrails are see on some days and not on others. If they were the result of heavy air traffic They should be seen everyday especially over cities like Los Angeles where air traffic is constant (la is my home city). But they are not, we will go 2-3 days of heavy “spraying” and then there will be none in sight for a whole day and the weather is relatively the same. Can you please explain this to me? Like I said befor, I am a strong believer that the government is spraying is with toxic chemicals and it wouldn’t be the first time they have done Unethical “experiments”, i.e. Tuskegee syphilis studies. anyway I would like to know your opinion. Thanks for your time.

  49. freddy k Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    A little while ago I started noticing this real life problem or conspiracy whichever it be.I studied the information available,thought about common sence in the matter,weighed the evidence and wow.if the goverment wanted us you or anyyone dead they have chemicals that kill millions to the ounce.What Im seeing is to much information for people who are watching to much drama and tryinf to find a scapegoat for societies big issues.Read a book,walk your dog and work with your neighbor brother and family to improve yourself and the lives around you.

  50. i know Says:
    May 20th, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    So much ignorance and gullibility. People who claim the “chemtrails” are at lower altitudes. How do you know how high a plane is. People claim these planes have no windows. How can you see at window from 30,000 feet away. They can’t even get their stories straight: they spray chemicals to sterilize us/change the weather/give us a disease. . .. which is it? People, please, go to college, take a free on line course, do something.

  51. TSH Says:
    March 1st, 2013 at 1:54 am

    This article is not very argumentative… you have not persuaded me to dismiss chemtrails. You must have alterior motives in writing this piece and think we are just a bunch of idiots. Well, we are not stupid and cannot be controlled to think what you think. Stop thinking what your daddy said because our parents don’t believe what the world has come to. For those that are awake will trust their inner instincts! We are awakened to chemtrails! We will let our children know and they will stop all this!

  52. Jane Says:
    March 12th, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    You are a friggin liar… You must work for the corrupt… Anybody with a brain can wake up early in the morning when it is clear. Then look up and listen and pay attention. First the big ones start doing their dirty work and then the small ones equipped with aerosol sprayers start coming around. Unfortunately the mass is being dumbed down and you know it so don’t lay this bull about when you were a little twerp and so on and so on.
    You people should all get in a airtight building and spray the crap out of each other and either enjoy it or get your pine box ready, seeing you are so eager to lower the mass.

    Jump in the box yourself and close the lid and do the world a favor and have one of your buddies nails it shut and bury you and the rest of you unconving pathetic pieces of dog Doo .

    If you think that all people are stupid then have a good look at yourself in the mirror and repeat this to yourself.

    Now repeat after me.

    I’m a friggin Liar

    I am useless and this was the only thing I could do to make myself happy.

    I know I am an arsewipe but that is why I lie.

    There now doesn’t that feel better Twerp?

  53. david hearth Says:
    April 19th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    this is a load of crap are university did tests for 7 days after witnessing these strangely placed chemtrails and found large amounts of barium and arsenic in the air . i thought as you did before i witnessed how our findings where swept under the rug . as with many other government related conspiracy’s all it takes is for you to look at it from all angles and not just your own! think outside the box and take everything with a pinch of salt !

  54. Meat Drapes Says:
    April 22nd, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Hysterical how these uneducated paranoid pot smoking basement dwellers are so convinced of this conspiracy with no real evidence. None of the garbage they throw sticks in the real world, they lack any critical thinking. I can’t prove fairies exist and I’ve seen photos of “fairies” so, yea there must be fairies.
    Oh by the way I’m a Ch E with over 23 years in the biotech industry, NONE of the scientists or engineers I world with believe this crap. Your paranoid delusions seem to rule your thought process, you should be medicated or locked up.

  55. Jeffrey J Says:
    April 23rd, 2013 at 11:44 am

    My mom has been talking about “chemtrails” for the last year and most of the conspiracy nut jobs I have seen are lower intelligence people with mental health issues with too much free time.

    If you have the eyesight of an eagle and can see small windows and details on planes kudos but totally unlikely without binoculars. Even then they better be some pretty good ones.

    If the government wanted to kill us they could do it at any speed they wanted. Chemtrails are not a likely way to “dumb down” the people if so why would they do it to THEMSELVES I haven’t seen a single person who supports this wackiness answer that one question. They wouldn’t kill or poison their loved ones or themselves.

    If they wanted to kill us they would sabotage smaller cities and towns then poison water supplies while treating loved ones closely. Just that alone would wipe out cities fairly quickly. But are they no…

    So nutjobs get off your poor arses (or rich (we know who was handed the degree ;) )

    The government is corrupt for the most part we can all agree on that crap but as for mass spraying of chemicals too high in the air no its an over costly method to do minimal damage if any..

    So nut jobs just stop improve the world with your time and stop being so paranoid its not healthy trust me i have horrible paranoia issues :/ (as in seeing things) have bipolar autism depression yet im not a nut job i see things for what they are.. atleast i dont go full out crazy over stupid stuff..

    Anyways i may be off on some things as i have no college degree am poor and didnt graduate 12th grade due to mental issues but i do know how to look things up and ask questions and the facts are there. So just look people… not hars to google -_-

    Brought to you by my crappy GS3 (mind the typos)

  56. Jeffrey J Says:
    April 23rd, 2013 at 11:56 am

    And a question if the elevation has to be 30000 ft and its known even lower can also produce contrails. Then is it a constant 30k over land or does it change with the landscape? Cause different cities have different heights above or below sea level so wouldn’t a city at +1000 ft have planes only needing 29000ft? If so since I’m not keen on geography wouldn’t cities where the planes seem “lower than 30k” still be making a contrail? Would seem so but I am too lazy to Google this on this cheaply phone

  57. Die Hard Says:
    May 28th, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    Obvious dis-information site is obvious. -___-

  58. Richard holmes Says:
    May 31st, 2013 at 9:44 am

    I live now (3yrs) in norwich uk. Daily planes aint allowed above us because im a mile from EA Airport. Its restricted. On days like today the skies blue and its 30 degrees. The usuall airliners that fly above are ALL military FACT (and i check mine) because of restricted airspace. Every day jets with 4sprayers (if commercial its gotta be an airbus and NONE are allowed above) do a crisscross pattern over me. Since coming here from up north my entire family is sick with kidney stones, back pains, blood clots and headaches, also squiggly lines in our vision directly after a day of spraying here. Ive sold my house now and moving out of an entire fricking country and you believe I’M mad? Stay, give them a cover under which they operate, google norwich chemical /chemtrail poisoning in 60s/70s and just stop covering the bastards tracks with nieve fallacy.

  59. Don McCaleb Says:
    June 5th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    If I’m an idiot, you’re a complete dumbass. Like the proverbial ostrich, your head and neck are buried so deep in the sand that, if you had half a brain, you might even glimpse chemtrails in Australia. Keep believing what your flyboy daddy tells you. Time has a way of separating the wheat
    from the chaff.

  60. Empirical Evidence man Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    It really is sad to see so many sheeple believe what their “alternative media” (get rich quick schemes) says in regards to “chemtrails” when there is absolutely no empirical evidence that exists that shows that (a) the government is secretly poisoning the ENTIRE country (including the land the government resides on) VIA contrails from planes (wouldn’t the water supply be more effective?) or that (b) people are having adverse health effects caused directly by chemtrails. The logic in this whole “theory” extends to paranoid schizophrenics looking up at contrails and making paranoid speculations about what could be done with them without any real critical contemplation.

  61. Empirical Evidence man Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Honestly these conspiracy junkies don’t know what it’s like to live under tryannical governments. All they do is live in their parent’s basement and make outrageous claims about the government. It’s people like this who are actually making it HARDER to keep the government in check. As soon as someone hears one of this idiots ranting, they immediately don’t believe a word of it even though, on some accounts, conspiracy theroist are half-correct. The UN for example, is a front for global conquest, but JEWS don’t run it. The UN has now formed an Arab-state majority and is essentially run by arabs (which we all know by the states of their countries, people, and laws is not a good thing). Conspiracy theorist continue to knab the wrong guy by blaming the jews for everything.

  62. Q-Bob Says:
    July 5th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    The comments here are hilarious! Why would anyone want to debunk this chemtrail stupidity when it produces this much comedy?

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  64. rusty shackleford junior Says:
    August 6th, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    Anyone who believes in chemtrails is clinically retarded. I would bet that 90% of these people are getting disability checks and their psych meds paid for by the government that is trying to poison them from the sky.

  65. InkyA Says:
    August 10th, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    To all the chemtards:

    If the government wanted you dead, it would have happened a long time ago.

    ’nuff said.

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  68. Will Says:
    December 5th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Chemtrails are a fact and you are a paid liar!

  69. Tom Says:
    December 17th, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    I find it funny that so many of the chemtrail tinfoil hatters’ comments here have been so filled with invective, claims of the author’s idiocy, and statements of belief in God.

    It’s interesting how someone can believe in an invisible sky daddy and still claim they are on the side of rationality!

    Unfrickingbelievable.

    There are several cehmtrails believers in my family. We wouldn’t trust any of them to guard a pair of shoes.

  70. mike Says:
    February 1st, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    chemtrail believers could easily prove their case and sue the perpetrators the same way any other real chemical dumping is handled. the same planes with sampling equipment are available to anyone. they don’t do it because of lack of any such thing as chemtrails.
    if this is such an important issue, why don’t you go get the easily obtainable proof instead of trying to convince unbelievers with claims easily proved to be false?

  71. Leonard Spale Says:
    February 25th, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    Can you explain why our how a plane at such an altitude could produce a contrail in an fashion. In other words it would be starting and stopping either for short periods our long or both combined. It seems strange that at that altitude where conditions are consistent that this would explain out.

  72. Tory Says:
    March 1st, 2014 at 11:54 am

    Funny how you can lie to people that are Stupid. It is very obvious that chemtrails are real. There are patents for Geoengineering and lots of information about Agenda 21. Your are another one of the supporter’s of sustainable green garbage program. Either you are Very Evil or you are Braindead. You might as well be on the wagon with all the other Deniers out there or the DumbFck’s that don’t look up.
    You made this site to deceive people. Don’t think your days will go unpunished. When enough wake up and find out your real identity you will run quickly while being stoned by the mass. I really deal sorry for you. You are a blantent LIAR.

  73. Bill Says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    Stupid article. Your ignorance is only surpassed by your hubris. Enjoy the aerosolized aluminum and while your at it, may as well wash it down with a plate of GMO corn, soy or canola covered with Monsanto’s round-up. Yumm.

  74. Stentor Says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 12:20 am

    Bill is an idiot because as someone who worked as a jet engine mechanic for quite a few years, I can tell you that no jet engine would ever be able to tolerate aerosolized metal in the jet-fuel, so again, you’re a moron. There might be GMO corn, but that has very little to do with your whole tinfoil-hat ideas about chemtrails, which are about as believeable as the idea of a flat earth. The Germans have a word for moronic idiotic people like you, it’s called Backpfeifengesicht – a face that cries out for a fist in it.

  75. gmm Says:
    April 8th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Look at the link below this is the UN talking about what they are doing with the Cem trails.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5is16A8pfw

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